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Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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So I'll start off by saying that in a general sense I think that the hero pass was not very well done content, and I don't think that it's inclusion is or was healthy for the game.
However I intend to offer up constructive criticism as well as feedback on how to improve it, so do not think I'm just being a hater about this content.

Right away there were some problems with this update that myself and others have noticed.
-The removal of daily challenges, and the replacement having inferior rewards.
-The cosmetics in the hero pass being very samey and uninteresting, as well as having low quality female variations.
-The UI being clunky and obtuse, more confusing creating more points and currencies to keep track of.
-Premier membership benefits being shoved down our throats at every turn, when this was supposed to be core content for everyone

How to improve:

1. Make the new daily missions rewards in line with the old daily challenge rewards, by giving 3 large lamps instead of 1 large, 1 medium, and 1 small. or adding a Treasure hunter key to each.

2. Improve the UI so that you can open it during combat, and not have to click the X multiple times to close it.

3. Fire the cosmetic design team and hire people with actual talent, who actually give a crap about their work. Hire people willing to put the same effort into female variants of cosmetics.

4. Change the EXP boosts from (2% for free, and 15% premier) to 5% and 10%. equalize them a little bit.

5. Have filtered chat remove hero pass messages from the chat.


Basically the Hero Pass is clunky, obtuse and overly designed. There are more interfaces to navigate, more currencies and points and things to keep track of, it's totally cumbersome and was not necessary for the game.

I understand that updates like this are made solely for marketing and financial reasons, but it's so transparent, there is very little passion or effort put into this content..
200m Woodcutting: 08/08/2021

Completionist: 09/10/2021

05-Sep-2023 00:33:04 - Last edited on 05-Sep-2023 00:37:16 by Abby Taylor

Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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and honestly, I think the daily missions should give you a large lamp AND a treasure hunter key, but that's just me.

A lot of the "slayer" outfits on the pass are literally just the same outfit.
and the titles are all the same but different colors, and the lazy Tombstone skilling emotes lmfao, give me a break with this lazy junk.

Combat should give more than 4 points a minute as well.

NOTE:

There was a community feedback post today from jagex announcing some changes.
one in particular was adding 2 large lamps for completing daily missions.
However that increases that daily exp to roughly ~71k, this is still only 2/3 of what we were offered from the old daily challenge system....

NO TH keys were being offered either, so this "fix" is like the smallest bandaid ever.
200m Woodcutting: 08/08/2021

Completionist: 09/10/2021

05-Sep-2023 00:33:35 - Last edited on 06-Sep-2023 18:02:03 by Abby Taylor

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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and honestly, I think the daily missions should give you a large lamp AND a treasure hunter key, but that's just me.


We are getting 1 large, 1 medium and 1 small lamps, all PRISMSTIC now as well as 375 hero points, good for almost 2 cosmetics of our choices in the Hero Store.

To me 2 cosmetics, 1 medium and 1 small prismstic lamps are worth far more than 1 treasure hunter key.

05-Sep-2023 00:40:43

Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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and honestly, I think the daily missions should give you a large lamp AND a treasure hunter key, but that's just me.


We are getting 1 large, 1 medium and 1 small lamps, all PRISMSTIC now as well as 375 hero points, good for almost 2 cosmetics of our choices in the Hero Store.

To me 2 cosmetics, 1 medium and 1 small prismstic lamps are worth far more than 1 treasure hunter key.


EARTH TO DILBERT
Hero points =/= Underworld Emblems


You cannot get 2 cosmetics from Daily Missions.

The daily challenges were giving a large lamp worth of EXP and a TH key PER challenge.
Small "Prismatic" lamp gives 10k exp it's worthless garbage.
200m Woodcutting: 08/08/2021

Completionist: 09/10/2021

05-Sep-2023 00:43:04 - Last edited on 05-Sep-2023 00:48:41 by Abby Taylor

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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and honestly, I think the daily missions should give you a large lamp AND a treasure hunter key, but that's just me.


We are getting 1 large, 1 medium and 1 small lamps, all PRISMSTIC now as well as 375 hero points, good for almost 2 cosmetics of our choices in the Hero Store.

To me 2 cosmetics, 1 medium and 1 small prismstic lamps are worth far more than 1 treasure hunter key.


EARTH TO DILBERT
Hero points =/= Underworld Emblems


You cannot get 2 cosmetics from Daily Missions.

The daily challenges were giving a large lamp worth of EXP and a TH key PER challenge.
Small lamp gives 10k exp it's worthless garbage.


Actually you are right we don't get 2 cosmetics from daily missions. However, since we get like 1 cosmetic per Hero level of 1k Hero Points each, 375 hero points is like .375 cosmetics daily. It is still worth more than a key.

05-Sep-2023 00:56:30

Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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@Dilbert

"we get like 1 cosmetic per hero level"

You're wrong again. Most of the cosmetics are just re-colors of each other, you get an outfit at level 1 and another at level 10. So that's 8 levels without an outfit, unless you're counting all the garbage overrides and trash like skilling overrides lmfao.

But you're forgetting that we are losing out on 3 TH keys a day (21 keys a week).
as well as ~40k exp from the lower lamps.

Do I want crappy ugly cosmetics that I will never wear, or do I want 21 TH keys and 700k exp a WEEK?
Easy choice.
200m Woodcutting: 08/08/2021

Completionist: 09/10/2021

05-Sep-2023 01:07:45

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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@Dilbert

"we get like 1 cosmetic per hero level"

You're wrong again. Most of the cosmetics are just re-colors of each other, you get an outfit at level 1 and another at level 10. So that's 8 levels without an outfit, unless you're counting all the garbage overrides and trash like skilling overrides lmfao.

But you're forgetting that we are losing out on 3 TH keys a day (21 keys a week).
as well as ~40k exp from the lower lamps.

Do I want crappy ugly cosmetics that I will never wear, or do I want 21 TH keys and 700k exp a WEEK?
Easy choice.


Re-colored outfits aren't cosmetics? Don't tell us red dye and blood dyes are the same thing so blood dyes are garbage. I didn't even mention we get more than just cosmetics for many levels. Cosmetics are just a part of several rewards for many levels.

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05-Sep-2023 01:37:52

Kateri

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As a mobile only player, I much preferred the simplicity of the interfaces as they were easier to navigate.

I didn’t mind updating the Yak track system, but removing Daily Challenges has really disappointed me. It strips people of little pops of experience in a few chosen skills, and a couple keys to enjoy Treasure Hunter.

I feel that the current changes all boil down to money, as they clearly believe that Premier Memberships are better value; because then it doesn’t matter what updates they ram through, or what impact that has on the community. It’s not the first time they’ve done this, but I’m really disappointed they still haven’t learned after all this time. To my knowledge there was absolutely no discussion with the community for a sweeping change such as this.

As for myself, although I’m a loyal ongoing member who frequently buys and sells extra bonds, or keys if it’s a treasure hunter promotion I like, I’m not a fan of doling out for a yearly membership for the reasons noted above. I feel that I’m literally being told that my time and my money isn’t as valuable as the person willing to sign their life away.


I’ve been mostly content with the updates until now, or at least happy enough I didn’t feel necessary to complain. Today’s update has changed that and I’m honestly disappointed. Looks like it might be time to disappear for awhile if they don’t get their head together and soon.

05-Sep-2023 01:41:00 - Last edited on 05-Sep-2023 04:06:56 by Kateri

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