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Nekikaru
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If there is a better spot in the forums for suggestions let me know please, but I don't come here much.

Some changes I thought would help the Runescape customers and would benefit Jagex financially also are the following:

Suggested Change 1:
Make memberships a Jagex Account wide thing. If I pay a monthly membership, give it to all my alt's, so my Ironman, my Pure and my Main can enjoy the perks of membership for one simple monthly fee. (This would align much better with what other games do. It's not linked to the character, its linked to the account.

Suggested Change 2:
Implement a progression awards system to the game. Once players hit a certain level, maybe there could be a reward? Like a 7-day or 14-day membership, as long as they meet a few criteria points to help control bots. - Jagex Account, with 2FA, with a Bank PIN, with at least 30 hours of played time, and at least 30QP, and has reached level 1500 then every 200 levels thereafter or something like that. Most legit players would meet all of those requirements no problem.

Thoughts from the community or Jagex?

11-Nov-2023 23:08:28

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Nekikaru said :
If there is a better spot in the forums for suggestions let me know please, but I don't come here much.


Moved to General as it's not really a compliment.
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12-Nov-2023 11:45:56

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Suggestion 1 will cost them a lot of income if they don't raise the price, and that will probably increase MTX which most of the community won't like.

Suggestion 2 kinda sounds like the Achievements systems with its area rewards (which needs certain levels, quests etc.). I don't see how that would combat bots...
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12-Nov-2023 12:51:49

Miles Prower
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There are ways to implement the first suggestion but it would not be viable to keep the current pricing model. Effectively, membership on a single character would remain the same price. An account-wide package may be created based on the average number of characters (with active membership) which are linked to Jagex accounts. Another option would be to offer a small discount on further memberships which could incentivise players to explore different play styles.

Suggestion 2 already happens; it is driven by bonds and GP.
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12-Nov-2023 16:51:21 - Last edited on 12-Nov-2023 16:54:36 by Miles Prower

Nekikaru
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I certainly note your observations on point 1. However, I would say that bots are generating some revenue for Jagex in memberships (although most are bonds, I would guess). I would also say that adding the ability to buy bonds with in-game currency eliminates potential revenue for Jagex, so there is some clear evidence to support bonds are not a good move towards an improved bottom line for them, yet they still do it. (or am I missing something?)

That being said, I think that the same thing is occurring with alt accounts from people who have mains that generate good positive cashflow to buy bonds. They are buying bonds for their other accounts to grant them membership also.

What I am proposing is a different approach, by taking a look at the models from other games, the standard practice for most, is multiple characters attached to one account, and they all benefit from the perks of a subscription (other games do this normally, and do not charge more for it). This at a glance creates more loyalty to the game, as you can play a certain way right now, then you can change up what you are doing and go to an alt account for a while and move around back and forth.

As for my second point, I know what you're saying, but what I am thinking isn't exactly what I proposed, what I am trying to get at is that there are new players coming to RuneScape all of the time, and if Jagex had a way to run the numbers to see how many new players stay engaged beyond level 30 lets say (maybe its higher or lower who knows). "Can Jagex offer an incentive for new players, so we can drive further engagement and bring more people into the world?" My approach might be wrong, but the purpose of any business is sustainability. How do you attract new customers, and how do you retain current ones?

12-Nov-2023 17:06:14

a Failure
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Nekikaru said :
I certainly note your observations on point 1. However, I would say that bots are generating some revenue for Jagex in memberships (although most are bonds, I would guess). I would also say that adding the ability to buy bonds with in-game currency eliminates potential revenue for Jagex, so there is some clear evidence to support bonds are not a good move towards an improved bottom line for them, yet they still do it. (or am I missing something?)

Bonds used for membership actually provide Jagex a bit more income than direct membership.

Bonds purchased on the GE with in-game gold were bought from Jagex with real money by other players who then sold them for gold on the GE. So even memberships bought with bonds through in-game gold are still generating good income for Jagex. The difference is other players are paying the real-life money instead of the player using the GE-purchased bond.

12-Nov-2023 17:41:58 - Last edited on 12-Nov-2023 17:43:40 by a Failure

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Why would Jagex want to get less revenue? Your suggestions would definitely cause Jagex to lose a lot of revenues, so it would be a non-starter for Jagex.

Bonds, and "no MTX (TM)" and uncontrollable number of bots from OSRS pretty much sealed the fate for alts to play free with just one subscription from their sole main account.

Bonds for free membership is already the "progression reward system". We make more gp progression, we buy more free membership for our alts.

12-Nov-2023 17:50:54

Mini JIT
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Not sure I agree, yes Melvor is part of Jagex and you can have multiple accounts for 1 price but that's a totally different game with no trading. On here you could set up multiple alts just to feed your main with no cost when it should be the other way round and your main should be supporting your alts.

This and another iron are 9 years old and have never paid membership but are both members and paid for by main at the start and now self-sufficient.

Why should players who do not use alts be made to pay a higher membership price for the ones that do. Servers are not free, the more accounts running on them the more it costs.

This game is too large and complex for new players to be able to run alts, if the free option is available then they will just try it, get overwhelmed and quit. If they want a change, then they could just stop membership on 1 account and start on another.

QP requirement does not stop bots as that has been proven time and time again.

12-Nov-2023 17:55:24

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Nekikaru said :
If there is a better spot in the forums for suggestions let me know please, but I don't come here much.

Some changes I thought would help the Runescape customers and would benefit Jagex financially also are the following:

Suggested Change 1:
Make memberships a Jagex Account wide thing. If I pay a monthly membership, give it to all my alt's, so my Ironman, my Pure and my Main can enjoy the perks of membership for one simple monthly fee. (This would align much better with what other games do. It's not linked to the character, its linked to the account.

Suggested Change 2:
Implement a progression awards system to the game. Once players hit a certain level, maybe there could be a reward? Like a 7-day or 14-day membership, as long as they meet a few criteria points to help control bots. - Jagex Account, with 2FA, with a Bank PIN, with at least 30 hours of played time, and at least 30QP, and has reached level 1500 then every 200 levels thereafter or something like that. Most legit players would meet all of those requirements no problem.

Thoughts from the community or Jagex?


I actually 100% agree with option 1, that would be a much welcomed change by the entire community, it would also get a lot of people to link their main account to their alts as their main account is the primary membership holder, that actually makes a heck of a lot of sense!!!!!!

25-Nov-2023 09:48:09

Bertel62
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If they made membership count for all characters on an account, the price would surely rise because of that, which would hurt all the players who have only one character. I only have one character, and I don't want to pay extra just because others have more. Bad idea.

25-Nov-2023 11:32:40 - Last edited on 25-Nov-2023 11:33:44 by Bertel62

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