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Hmm, hadn't really tried the Ranging Guild in the Beta, totally forgot that was a decent method to train range. Guess I'll give that a shot in a little bit.

Edit: You can still use the Range Guild for xp, it's even a little more convenient since you can't attack any of the guards in there now. However, it would be very tedious clicking that much to get 99 range. I'd probably consider still doing Soul Wars for range as it would be nonstop clicking to 99 range with the Guild.
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13-Nov-2012 18:25:59 - Last edited on 13-Nov-2012 19:17:42 by So Close

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Really? Well that's better news, at least there's another method for Ranged xp. Also Barbarian Fishing for Strength xp.. Although I don't think anyone wants to be there for 100+ days at 6k xp an hour xD.

Do you know if there any other alternatives to Attack and Defense xp? I don't want to honestly spend all my time Soul Wars'in it up.

15-Nov-2012 16:31:20

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You can do Pest Control by repairing the barriers, those count towards your overall damage. The Warriors Guild has those minigame type things that earn you tokens. There are two for strength, one for attack, and one for defence, these methods would of course be really slow to train with.

One method I have been contemplating is training in dung. Just enter a dung and get as far as you could opening all of the skill doors, a couple of these skill doors relating to Strength and Summoning. At higher levels I can get about 400 xp per strength door, but you'd have to get lucky to even get passed the xp/hr of Barb Fishing.

A 10hp Mauler I've seen has actually fished his way to 99 strength before, believe he had around 130m fish xp or something like that. So it's not all that farfetched. :p
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16-Nov-2012 14:33:21

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thank you for the info, on anothernote

will you plan to update the thread with what quests are/are not possible after eoc? and will you be leaving the previously completable quest list somewhere, perhaps another post?
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18-Nov-2012 01:22:44

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If I were to update the list post Eoc release, it would pretty much be a list for skillers to be honest. I might just leave it the way it is and add like a note at the top saying that all combat related quests were previously doable but no longer are, and that I will still be updating the list with further releases or something like that. May just add a "*" to previously doable and make a note at the bottom too so it still remains a viable list and thread. Just depends what all will happen when Eoc is live.

Edit: Now that it is live, do not target anything by mistake. If it is still your target when someone kills it, you will gain hp xp. You can still cannon and not gain hp xp, you just won't gain any range xp or drops and slayer xp is about the only thing you'll get. Still don't know what I'll do with the thread.
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18-Nov-2012 03:24:59 - Last edited on 20-Nov-2012 16:49:26 by So Close

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Yes, you can cannon as long as you don't target it at all. you'll get the slayer xp but won't get any range xp or the drop from the creatures, a huge money sink. I haven't tried recoils without targeting, as this is kind of hard with there being no aggressive creatures. The only way to recoil is to target a creature, which then guarantees hp xp. On a side not, last I tried you could damage yourself and the recoil would count that as damage taken from the creature, dealing damage to it.

Edit: After further testing with a cannon on greater demon on my main, you get the slayer xp and the drop with no range or hp xp if you do not target it. I targeted one just before it died, dealing no damage at all and still got the same as if I didn't target. When I actually hit it is when I received Hp and ranged xp from the cannon. Not sure what the current xp you get from killing Greaters is, but I was getting 71 xp and the kills were taking forever due to their amped up hp. I will test recoils later once I'm done this task.

Edit 2: Full xp on Greater Demons is 142 slayer xp, so it look like half xp of the current xp now if you use a cannon without targeting.

Edit 3: While on that Greaters task I used a Moss Titan about half way through and noticed it didn't give xp when it hit and kill a dog that I had not targeted. further tested with it on a Greater that was attacking me, and it still gave no xp when the target wasn't hit by me directly. This task was very annoying as I managed to use over 3k cballs on about 180 demons while using dual rune c'bow's with broad bolts and occasionally using a Dreadnip. Can only imagine how many cballs it would be without attacking. Next thing for me to test is going to be recoils and summoned creatures offensive specials, as I had only tested their auto attacks.
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21-Nov-2012 13:05:39 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2012 15:06:25 by So Close

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Edit 4 will go here due to running out of characters...
Recoils are odd, very odd. Flat out recoiling something will give 0 xp, even if it is your target. It appears that if anything dies by any means by you, you will get the drop, even though the recoil gave zero slayer xp and didn't count towards my task I still got the drop. I did manage to get the recoil to count by using all mage abilities without a spell selected for autocasting. It for some reason made the kill count even though I didn't hit anything, received minimal slayer xp and no hp xp.

For familiars the xp was a bit random. some hits I would get xp others I wouldn't. Wouldn't use these at all due to how inconsistent it was.

Only thing really left to test is ASA, I'll probably do that another day. I'd suggest testing this other stuff out for yourselves on separate accounts as well. It's much different than the previous way, but still semi do-able. Going to be interesting to see how questing will work out. May get a trial account going for some testing again. :p

Basics: Wield dual c'bow or at least one c'bow and a shield, I did all my testing with dual and no ammo. Probably better to wear a *hi*ld while cannoning to decrease damage taken as food doesn't heal all that much at low hp. You can either attack it with no ammo on and it will make it your target or select the arrow in the upper left hand side of the hotbar and select your target that way. Cast confuse or a spell like that to get the creature on you and you should be set to recoil. To get the kill to count use mage abilities, I ended up using them all including the Ultimates with no hp gain. Recoils have 4k damage taken on them too, making recoiling pretty much afkable.


List anything else and I'll be glad to test and what not. :)
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21-Nov-2012 16:15:51 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2012 16:30:07 by So Close

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