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465798359gjk

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Trips said :

It's only sarcasm being this has gone on for like a year now and clearly speaking out the same way countless times clearly hasn't been the solution to solve the problems.

This consistent drama is why you are 'bullied and harassed endlessly'. Maybe it's just the personality you have of handling things that causes people to bully and harass you, you could say that others consistently bully you but from what I've seen you give the bait so that there is a reason to 'bully' you. Even before you were an admin there were questions as to how you would handle things but the team was willing to give you a shot anyway.

I'm not saying you're an enemy of the fc, but the reason for kos was to hopefully let you and Lee chill out. The tactics of the past are things that got you onto kos and by continuing to use the same methods you're not making it easier for yourself to be taken off.

In saying this, I'm choosing to just watch how this plays out for the 4th(?) time and will enjoy seeing the same story play out yet another time.

I don't need to defend position as admin because I said *grabs popcorn*. If you're willing to say all that because of my sarcastic comment, you clearly aren't ready to handle this. Being able to handle flame bait instead of responding with a tantrum might be a sign that your attitude towards the situation is merely to make up bigger problems than there really is.
Sorry, I shouldn't have taken my frustration with the FC out on you, but if the admin team had acted on this in a more timely manner you wouldn't have had to hear it for so long and I didn't start this "drama"

P.S. - IMO, putting a player on KOS is synonymous with considering them an enemy of the FC and that has nothing to do with my personal situation, just how I see it.

P.P.S - I'm not trying to start this all up again. I felt I owed you an apology. We can talk things over privately in lieu of spamming this thread.

24-Nov-2015 02:58:10 - Last edited on 24-Nov-2015 06:07:17 by 465798359gjk

Oct

2014

Trips

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Dardad,

You told me you wanted to withdraw your kos appeal and for me to ignore all your accounts. There are clear signs you don't want to be in this mess. Wasting your time trying to pm me the past week should have been a clear indication that I followed your previous requests to help you leave the fc because it's like 'trying to break up with a hot girlfriend' or whatever you said (I don't often puush conversations so I don't remember the exact phrase). Your messages of you trying to get yourself put onto the kos list last april also seem to counteract how you continue to react on this forum. Slipping in months later that you wanted to get onto kos doesn't really look like a great tactic to influence how I look at your appeal.

You seem to always say you're done here, but are you really? Even when there are no replies to your messages, you still stick around quoting old things again even though you don't want to continue. I'm not entirely sure what you even want anymore because you appear to change your mood/mind many times a week.

I'm not exactly sure where I'm going with this to be honest, but as with others on the kos list, you sort of just need to respectfully take a break from the whole points/reasons that got you added. The only reason you haven't had 'your name cleared' is because the admin team is still skeptical of this odd behaviour that changes from nice to mean to good to bad to crazy etc that you often display in-game and on the forums.

Hopefully this late night ramble makes sense in the context of what you're thinking and wanting from me.

24-Nov-2015 07:14:52 - Last edited on 24-Nov-2015 07:19:10 by Trips

Jan

2003

Tuffty

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Yeah, I have realized that. I just wanted to get it out there that that is why I am going to be writing the new phrase instead of directly mentioning KoS. It is kind of like code.

Be wise and don't even think of using a code. We are smarter then people give us credit for.

1 of your new posts with the "New Code" has all ready been removed.

Remember no mention,r hints or codes about kos people are allowed.

They make Forum Help reports and then the F-Mods have to come back to the thread in ID and start hiding again. You won't want a heap of hidden posts. So post without any reference to kos or codes.

Cheers. Comprehensive Account Security

What do snowmen have for breakfast? Snowflakes!

24-Nov-2015 08:55:20

465798359gjk

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Trips. I invited you to take things private with me to not perpetuate things. So why bring up a bunch of more stuff to rub in my face?

Yes, it was a deliberate move on my part to finally dish back out some of the type of things that were being said to and about me by the bullies in the cc to try to bring the situation to some type of a head because it was distracting me from what I needed to be doing in real life. That got me banned from the cc and kos for being disrespectful one time. Yet I have been disrespected 100 times by your ranks. I should not have had to resort to desperate tactics to resolve these issues. I should not have been put in a position of having to post my "story" here on the forums. I tried to talk to each and every one of the admin team. Of them you were the only one that would even listen and it appeared you were doing nothing about it. You saw some of what happened yourself. There's a lot you didn't see, but you clearly saw enough to know there was at least some substance to my claims. I tried to talk to the individual and consistently got "f/o" as a reply. And I have taken breaks. I took a 3 month break after the initial incident. I didn't log onto the game at all for one whole month over the summer. Look through this thread and show me where I have even mentioned it once.

Yes I told you to ignore all of my accounts because I didn't want to be a pest to you knowing you had exams and a lot of other things on your plate. Yes, I have wanted to just walk away from this all numerous times because it's very frustrating. You know what happened. My "story" has been consistent and supported by the files I provided, what you saw and what other trusted sources could tell you. It appears that you are holding it against me that nothing was done about this and I have had to be so persistent.

I didn't start this round. I was discussing ongoing issues and when "your rank" realized it was me they attacked me. I rest my case.

24-Nov-2015 14:40:02

465798359gjk

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@Lyra - Sorry I couldn't talk much the other evening. I was trying to finish up a job before dark. I'd like to discuss things with you further when you get a chance.

P.S. - Did you forget to take me off your fl?

24-Nov-2015 14:50:24 - Last edited on 24-Nov-2015 14:59:13 by 465798359gjk

Ochari

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Tuffty said :

Yeah, I have realized that. I just wanted to get it out there that that is why I am going to be writing the new phrase instead of directly mentioning KoS. It is kind of like code.

Be wise and don't even think of using a code. We are smarter then people give us credit for.

1 of your new posts with the "New Code" has all ready been removed.

Remember no mention,r hints or codes about kos people are allowed.

They make Forum Help reports and then the F-Mods have to come back to the thread in ID and start hiding again. You won't want a heap of hidden posts. So post without any reference to kos or codes.

Cheers. Perhaps I shall make a new code. It is a

logical fallacy

on your part

to assume what the code represents. The new code will never be explained. If you assume what a post means without

proof

your moderator status should be revoked.

It was my mistake to publicly announce what the phrase meant and I will not do that for the next implementation

,

and this is in order to assure that you will never have proof and therefore have no grounds to remove my posts

.
Again, just like in real-life legal practices, you are

outside your jurisdiction

when you start

assuming

things about what others have said. You can only allow literal interpretation (you can only interpret what is written and nothing beyond that ).

Edit: What I mean by "logical fallacy" is that you assumed "R Quark-related information" meant "KoS". For this instance, you were right, but only because I publicly announced that's what it meant. If I choose to write anything else, for example, "Hamsters", and you assume that is related to KoS (whether it actually is or isn't is irrelevant), you are committing to the fallacy. Don't assume. The legal court doesn't assume and neither should you.

It takes money to make money.

24-Nov-2015 18:46:05 - Last edited on 24-Nov-2015 19:23:57 by Ochari

Ochari

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I'd also like to add, Tufftypower, that Elf Mathews included such information in his compilation(s)

for example, his compilation on page 114 (see the link in the quote below)

, which is where I originally got the idea, and his posts

were never deleted

.

Now I must ask, why the discrimination?

Original message details are unavailable.

* Unconfirmed trades with a superscript * are trades involving a kos and a non-rank.

It takes money to make money.

24-Nov-2015 19:05:16 - Last edited on 24-Nov-2015 19:18:04 by Ochari

465798359gjk

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I wouldn't push the issue. With the amount of time and effort the fmods have to spend cleaning up that thread you should be grateful they haven't locked it yet. Also it's best not to challenge a fmod in that manner but instead to follow the proper procedure under which their actions will be reviewed by a jmod.

Just letting you know you're in dangerous waters. No disrespect intended.

24-Nov-2015 21:01:29

Ochari

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465798359gjk said :
I wouldn't push the issue. With the amount of time and effort the fmods have to spend cleaning up that thread you should be grateful they haven't locked it yet. Also it's best not to challenge a fmod in that manner but instead to follow the proper procedure under which their actions will be reviewed by a jmod.

Just letting you know you're in dangerous waters. No disrespect intended. I appreciate your concern, but bowing down to the supremacy of power is exactly what leads to its corruption. I have asked the mods to talk to me in-game through private messaging politely but they never have.
If a mod sees this, please know that I still prefer this method of contact.

Edit: I don't want Tufftypower to perceive this as an attack on him personally. That is by no means my goal. I am simply questioning the mods' reasoning and like I said, I would prefer this to

not

remain a public debate. It is up to them whether they contact me in game and so far they haven't, thus my posts above.

It takes money to make money.

24-Nov-2015 23:00:45 - Last edited on 24-Nov-2015 23:16:42 by Ochari

Sep

2021

S z

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Tuffty said :

Yeah, I have realized that. I just wanted to get it out there that that is why I am going to be writing the new phrase instead of directly mentioning KoS. It is kind of like code.

Be wise and don't even think of using a code. We are smarter then people give us credit for.

1 of your new posts with the "New Code" has all ready been removed.

Remember no mention,r hints or codes about kos people are allowed.

They make Forum Help reports and then the F-Mods have to come back to the thread in ID and start hiding again. You won't want a heap of hidden posts. So post without any reference to kos or codes.

Cheers.
Dear Tuffty,

I would like to ask advice on how to post on the thread. Any fc or individual may post prices and/or compile trades, or do whatever is relevant, on that thread, as we both know. R Quark use a Kick on Sight system to rule out reports that we feel aren't trustable to the community, and (we believe) this prevents manipulation on the forums.

Now, if we can't be transparent about why some trades are omitted and/or ignored, should we just ignore them completely - without mention? Or what? I don't think censoring the word "kos" benefits the forums in any way. (note here that another FC could have their own list of players to ignore trades from, if they wish, and I think it would benefit everyone to know why they were omitted from the lists - to make the thread helpful to everyone who visits it).

Would saying something like "some trades that could be false have been ignored" and always associating posts with R Quark solve this issue (or would this be classed as "code" for KoS)?

For the avoidance of any doubt, I am not complaining about the decision to hide posts (I'll do that on the appropriate forum), but am asking advice on the best way to proceed.

Thanks! Andy Murray to win Wimbledon 2022.

24-Nov-2015 23:44:54

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