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Mr Moneyhold
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Furyouss said :
So when can the meeting to decide about these rules and certain other things happen?

judging by the feedback, the best way to meet up would to just post here. I do think its time to edit some rules for the fc that respect todays rs environment. First lets get some rank ups done today. I bought this baby, straight cash

01-Aug-2017 18:49:42

General Hard

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As every month I recorded every pc'd hour posted on the High Level weapon status forum threads

Here are the July numbers, I can say many hours have been pc'ed. Thank you all!

Furyouss 255h
LordHardison 57h
Jimmm 49h30
S-K Nick 41h10
Rhustee 20h
Dw b Happy 18h
V22 14h30
Seo Kouji 13h30
DJ3K 13h
StockMarket 10h
Slay_Alot 8h
General Hard 7h15
KINGGATSBY 7h15
Mastercutman 4h
Mr Tornado 4h
Tirade 4h
Mr Scott-C 3h
Frosty Bonez 3h
Redd98 1h30
00jt 1h
Hunting Moms 1h
Mary Ellen 1h
S ol 0h45

If any mistakes have been made, post here or pm me in-game.

Sincerely
General Hard

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01-Aug-2017 21:37:27

Furyouss
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These are some of the things that need to be addressed according to me :

1. The whole confusion about the need to mention about over/under/exact price.

2. The need to bring back the pcing competition titles. It was a fun thing and also acts as an incentive for pcers to pc more maybe?

3. What to do in order to provide accurate pcs when there are no pcers for a long time?

4. If all generals are away or busy with irl work, probably captains should be made in charge of some of the things in the fc.

5. A need to change how rank promotion/demotion are done? Because the posts on forums take years to happen and by then its already time for another ranking session.

6. A way to make the FC great and active again! :D

03-Aug-2017 10:29:03 - Last edited on 03-Aug-2017 20:39:18 by Furyouss

Jimmm
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To much to read through but i saw something about a rank session and i think that's a good idea, and after that post all the important stuff that was said in that session in a post in this thread. Do not click here if you are lazy!

03-Aug-2017 10:43:41

Mr Moneyhold
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Furyouss said :
We first need to decide which rules need to be modified/changed.

1. The whole confusion about the need to mention about over/under/exact price.

2. The need to bring back the pcing competition titles. It was a fun thing and also acts as an incentive for pcers to pc more maybe?

3. What to do in order to provide accurate pcs when there are no pcers for a long time?

4. If all generals are away or busy with irl work, probably captains should be made in charge of some of the things in the fc.

5. A need to change how rank promotion/demotion are done? Because the posts on forums take years for it to happen and by the time they happen time for another rank ups is already on the cards.

6. A way to make the FC great again and active! :D



1. As mentioned on the last page in the fc we have the right as ranks to find the correct pc by asking over/under flat etc, if people join our fc they are giving into our rules this is fine. What I've seen again is people disrespecting the same ranks on the forum for asking these questions but the forum is fair game everyone is level ranks don't matter. Our normal procedure was to ignore the update if they didn't want to provide the correct information to update a pc; I posted on the last page and again right here the rule on the HLW v23 page 1:

Logic behind the 'b'/'s' system rounding: If someone instant buys something for 34.3m for example they couldn't have instant bought it for 34m but they could have for 35m. The reverse is true.


This point is that if people want to report prices they have to do so correctly with which the page lays out. A report of nis zgs 999m wouldn't be correctly posted you can then ask the question over/under and quote page one or that line so people understand more I bought this baby, straight cash

03-Aug-2017 20:44:38 - Last edited on 03-Aug-2017 20:57:19 by Mr Moneyhold

Mr Moneyhold
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We can change the rule of ignoring the update if they don't want to answer our question on the forum to assume the price was flat and ask the fc is there are any conflicts, to me this would be the easiest fix, but I would still rather the person who posted originally to answer the over/under question first if they can. Unless anyone has a better idea im all ears and open to making changes for the better.

2. I am working on this, Gen was in charge of it but went on a world tour and it was tough for me to keep track of the titles and other fc matters. If anyone wants to take over this job I would be happy to have them run this I know Rhustee liked these as well

3. If we haven't had a pcer in a long time the forum still has the most up to date pcs we cant change prices but only wait until someone updates them, the idea I feel is no price is ever outdated what line we have is the most up to date pc until we get a newer price update for an item, I really do like when people update the forums between pcers and even highlighted it green as a way to keep your rank/contribute to the chat on page 2 of this thread.

4. Sadly some of our longer tenured ranks have been moving on from the fc, I'm looking to replace them soon but I still need to talk to other higher ranks when i see them.

5. This is also in the works I've been leaning with a way to make ranks easier to obtain, but easier to lose the only downside is to all the members who have put months effort into the chat for one rank up I would need to find a way to do right by them as well. Any change in this will have people it helps but also hurts; the change would have to be for the better for the fc to come into effect. My idea originally for this was to change the 10 hours pced insta add to 5 hours pced insta add, lower the monthly requirement to 3 hours for a smile but monitor the smiles added from the lower requirement and remove any inactives or loafers.

6. I can't force people to volunteer their time I bought this baby, straight cash

03-Aug-2017 20:55:47

Lwut

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1. I was never a fan of the over/under/flat thing, but I understand why it exists. Though if you ask to clarify and they don't respond, I think you should just assume it's flat and take the update, especially if the pc will have moved by more than 1m.

If you just blanket assume all unstated reports are flat, it might pose more conflicts but then you can just ask if it was flat to try and resolve the conflict. If they don't answer to that, just take the conflict and revert. It's not the biggest deal.

2. The titles had absolutely no down side for everyone who didn't manage them. Either people were motivated or they didn't care. I'd be happy for these to come back, but I accept it's a lot of work. Maybe if someone wants to take over this then we can pick new titles to go for too?

3. I don't think anything needs to change here. Just use the most recent you have at any point. If it's outdated, there's little you can do except wait for an update.

4. Reasonable, but there's not much that needs to be run day to day by higher ups. The stuff that does need to happen would have to wait for General access anyway. But it's never urgent.

5. I'm not a massive fan of ranks being easier to achieve. I already think they're too easy tbh. I certainly wouldn't want a quark style rank session. I really don't like their system. Maybe for the derank lists we should have more of an objective system, rather than the subjective forum lists every 3-4 months that we have at the moment.

This would mean setting actual criteria that is more strictly enforced. For example if you haven't PCed for x amount of time or posted on forum or anything then you drop a rank. Smileys could be only removed if they don't even appear on highscores anymore (not logged in for 6 months). There would likely be a lot of controversy over the exact details of this so it would have to be well-ironed out, but once it's in place it would remove the subjective nature of the current system.

03-Aug-2017 21:26:58

Lwut

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6. Probably depends too much on how interesting the market is for rares or competing items. Most of the people who use our fc use neighbouring ones too. There's only so many people and at a time of rares being hyped, or whatever, then weapons will obviously take a back seat. You yourself, Fury, know all about this as this happened last year to you.

03-Aug-2017 21:28:33

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