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CuddleBucket

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Please do not post on or bump this thread, it is regarding a previous matter addressed here.


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, me again.

I've been good & resisted the urge to hassle you all week :D

Was not sure how or if I was supposed to contact you regarding previous matter you said you'd look into.

I know you're busy, trying to re-establish contact, as you can imagine I have a certain person biting his nails waiting on outcome.

I have checked email & account messages, so I was wondering if you could find a way to pass your findings onto me, & if you think i was misled as to the facts or if it still hasn't been resolved.

I also understand it's likely not good news, but I need to inquire either way.

Apologies again, but as they were such a senior member it really is a clan matter.
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04-Dec-2015 09:45:04

Mod Matthe

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It is not a CLF matter - whether the Clan member was senior or not.

The ban was appropriate and the inbox and ban messages sent explain why this action has occurred. It is a permanent ban. Mod MattHe | Former Community Manager, now in Events & occasional Lore Monkey

04-Dec-2015 10:13:08

CuddleBucket

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Don't ignore this feedback.

I gain nothing by declaring this.

This was an incorrect ban, & this person is inconsolable.

It is genuine bewilderment & frustration at permanently losing a character he has spent years developing, without doing any botting & unable to find a single rule he has broken.

I have NOTHING to gain by saying this falsely

He has not misled me, he is clearly genuine.

We've now lost a fantastic clan member of over 2 years who completely understandably cannot continue with the game after having all his work taken away.

All the great relationships he's made with so many members as he is always present in game.

I understand you're between a rock & a hard place when it comes to bots, but denying there's a problem doesn't help anyone.

I'm sad & angry that a correct decision wasn't made here & I have just lost one of my strongest supporters, allies & friends, because of an incorrect detection.

Though it means nothing to you, I will be sad & angry about this for a long time to come.


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@Archaeox it was worth the risk of being blunt, good for you, you took a real chance there.
@scret good point.
@ftc you're exactly right, ask for my original thread to be unhidden & you'll see it. & then the passive antagonism that followed by scret et al, well meaning or not, unnecessary.
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05-Dec-2015 11:51:40 - Last edited on 06-Dec-2015 08:04:33 by CuddleBucket

Salcos

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CuddleBucket said :
Don't ignore this feedback.

I gain nothing by declaring this.

This was an incorrect ban, & this person is inconsolable.

It is genuine bewilderment & frustration at permanently losing a character he has spent years developing, without doing any botting & unable to find a single rule he has broken.

I have NOTHING to gain by saying this falsely

He has not misled me, he is clearly genuine.

We've now lost a fantastic clan member of over 2 years who completely understandably cannot continue with the game after having all his work taken away.

All the great relationships he's made with so many members as he is always present in game.

I understand you're between a rock & a hard place when it comes to bots, but denying there's a problem doesn't help anyone.

I'm sad & angry that a correct decision wasn't made here & I have just lost one of my strongest supporters, allies & friends, because of an incorrect detection.

Though it means nothing to you, I will be sad & angry about this for a long time to come.


:@

Just a heads up, and a piece of advice I learned from leadership school through my fraternity.

When you are posting as a leader, or in a professional way you shouldn't make your text all colored. Keep it simple (normally black but the forum is white text), and don't get all artistic with it. For some, it is hard on the eyes, and is hard to take you seriously when the text looks more like a coloring book rather than something we should be reading.

Sorry if this came across as rude.
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05-Dec-2015 17:38:45

CuddleBucket

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I made an emotional plea in an emotional situation puting my name on the line purely at the word of a fellow clan member who has become a genuine friend in a relationship spanning 2 years. If Matthe wants to blame himself for offering to help, that's well within his rights, I'm VERY well aware that no good deed goes unpunished.

What is not ok is the manner in which it was handled after the offer of help - no update, & a very brief blunt uninformative response showing no compassion when I check back in after a week giving him time & space to do as he has offered. The person in question said the ban messages were in no way helpful & did not enlighten him in the least as to what he'd done. & I want to congratulate you guys on your compassion too - it was definitely worth pointing things out like text colour & everyone's claim of innocence, it was certainly relevant & valuable input.

Andras I left this forum a long time ago for the exact reasons in your very own thread. Being in here is banging your head against a brick wall. I came here as the only avenue I could think of to help my friend. Matthe it would be better off not offering to help if that is the level of help you are going to provide. I'm sorry this has turned not very nice, no doubt it comes across as petty, probably because it is. Matthe this is a CLF matter, because guess what? I am a Clan Leader, this is my forum, & this mattered to me. We can't run clans by ourself, especially large ones, & I just lost someone who worked side by side with me in supporting our clan.

No doubt you'll lock this, hide this, or something like that as you wouldn't want something with a shred of sense being seen by too many people.

It's the same old story...... I stand by my original messages to you, this person was very important to me & our clan, & after all this he is none the wiser as to what he has done.
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06-Dec-2015 04:02:58

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CuddleBucket said :
I made an emotional plea in an emotional situation puting my name on the line purely at the word of a fellow clan member who has become a genuine friend in a relationship spanning 2 years. If Matthe wants to blame himself for offering to help, that's well within his rights, I'm VERY well aware that no good deed goes unpunished.

What is not ok is the manner in which it was handled after the offer of help - no update, & a very brief blunt uninformative response showing no compassion when I check back in after a week giving him time & space to do as he has offered. The person in question said the ban messages were in no way helpful & did not enlighten him in the least as to what he'd done. & I want to congratulate you guys on your compassion too - it was definitely worth pointing things out like text colour & everyone's claim of innocence, it was certainly relevant & valuable input.

Andras I left this forum a long time ago for the exact reasons in your very own thread. Being in here is banging your head against a brick wall. I came here as the only avenue I could think of to help my friend. Matthe it would be better off not offering to help if that is the level of help you are going to provide. I'm sorry this has turned not very nice, no doubt it comes across as petty, probably because it is. Matthe this is a CLF matter, because guess what? I am a Clan Leader, this is my forum, & this mattered to me. We can't run clans by ourself, especially large ones, & I just lost someone who worked side by side with me in supporting our clan.

No doubt you'll lock this, hide this, or something like that as you wouldn't want something with a shred of sense being seen by too many people.

It's the same old story...... I stand by my original messages to you, this person was very important to me & our clan, & after all this he is none the wiser as to what he has done.


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06-Dec-2015 04:39:40

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