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Mod Matthe said :
Lucine said :
@Mod Maz

What do you think of the idea of removing the upkeep concept from Citadels? (and only leaving the upgrades costs)

Mod Maz, who has just left for her hols, and I have discussed this often, and also with Mod Moltare. In fact we chatted about it earlier this week.

Our group thoughts? No, no, no, no, no....

We all agree that a tier 7 is meant to be something that requires upkeep and without it we would have significant problems design wise.

Thank you for the answer. Then there is only the potential Avatars buffs improvements left that could likely change my decision of closing our T7 Citadel. Because as a group who did the capping for 2.5 years, we are getting burnout (and it is no longer sufficiently rewarding or fun), and we don't want to allow the Citadel to negatively influence our recruitment again, hence the high likeliness of completely closing it. It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. ~Herman Melville

18-Dec-2015 11:56:08 - Last edited on 18-Dec-2015 12:07:13 by Lucine

Lisaa said :
Tribelewits said :
I don't really think that's true. Yes we got 3 wishes each so technically you are right. And how it is currently going, almost everyone saying the same thing, we are limiting ourselves.

However if we would see past our own top 3 personal wishes, see what is already suggested and suggest something that is not covered yet we'll get way more suggestions out there.

I'll quote myself on this one to explain what i mean;

Rule #1 of knowing me: If I have the X) face in my post, chances are I'm not being serious and am just messing around

Yeh, tbh i also saw you didn't write the same as most others, so i gathered you figured that part out already.

What you were saying in your post was just the most relevant to react to, in order to get out there what i wanted to say. More like not directed at you but at others who might read it and think about it. Proud Co-Owner of the Wolf

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18-Dec-2015 14:57:32 - Last edited on 18-Dec-2015 15:10:46 by Naruto 1001

18-Dec-2015 23:19:19

Mod Maz said :
Subzero said :
... 4) I want all of the Avatar buffs reworking. Most of them are useless, and should all be reworked to be attractive buffs within themselves.

Agreed, please start a thread to come up with "attractive" buffs which don't include just giving you all multiples of XP.

Already have, a while ago - I'll bump it.

Mod Maz said :
Subzero said :
... 5) I want the Citadel battlefield reworking. NPCs buffed, and using EoC mechanics. NPCs and Players both give XP when killed, up to a maximum of 500k/week. NPCs have a chance at dropping Citadel booster tokens, which double your capping rate for the next 900 resources. These would be tradeable.

A whole rework is a massive job. Simply making the NPC's balance with EoC is something ninja could do. XP is a definite nono.

Why is the XP a "nono"? I don't feel that a 500K per/week cap with a balanced XP rate is unreasonable at all. I'd be happy to settle on something lower, such as 250K, but honestly, when you have content such as Treasure Hunter, you really can't make strong balancing arguments against this.

Mod Maz said :
Subzero said :
... 6) I want the Citadel battlefield NPCs to drop 'Avatar insignias'. These would be consumable, tradeable, one-use items that were pre-loaded with a weakened version an Avatar buff. The buffs themselves would stack with Avatar buffs if you are current eligible for one. As well as battlefield NPCs, players should have a chance at finding one of these whilst skilling in the Citadel. This sort of stuff would help Citadels come alive again.

An interesting idea... I doubt we'd make it stackable tho, the Avatar buff already stacks with many other things, multiplying up again would be... too OP.

- will bump. Ta.

Subzero

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19-Dec-2015 01:48:32 - Last edited on 19-Dec-2015 02:06:32 by Subzero

Esploratore said :
Mod Matthe said :
Lucine said :
@Mod Maz

What do you think of the idea of removing the upkeep concept from Citadels? (and only leaving the upgrades costs)

Mod Maz, who has just left for her hols, and I have discussed this often, and also with Mod Moltare. In fact we chatted about it earlier this week.

Our group thoughts? No, no, no, no, no....

We all agree that a tier 7 is meant to be something that requires upkeep and without it we would have significant problems design wise.

Then unless citadels are updated in a really exciting way soon, they are sadly on the way to becoming dead content.

They already are. Majority of people only does them because they got used on doing them, not because they want to, or because they are either rewarding or fun. I have only recently given a profound thought to the "root of all evil" that pushed me to going out of my way into recruiting in the early stages or our Clan...That Evil being the Citadel. And look at where we are now.......It is boring, it is tedious, more click intense than other content, and on top of it, much less rewarding. Why do we really bother?

The Clans are much better off without Citadels. The time, thought, effort investment in it takes away from what could be put in developing and interacting with the Clan's community, and all other different areas. It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. ~Herman Melville

19-Dec-2015 10:57:16