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Noetica
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Lyrehca said :
Mod Shauny said :
If I'm speaking personally here.

Not sure if having two servers is ideal as we shouldn't try to split up where possible? Will need to look at the threads about it. :)

Anyway, hope you're all well, feel free to leave me messages on Discord and I'll get to them where and when I can.
I agree. Duplicating efforts when we need to be focused seems such a waste.

As one of the founders of the CLC (a clan leaders discord) I could not agree with you both more.

That is why we are making a great effort to be complementary to how the CLD functions and have no duplication of effort. Discussions with JMods over clan ideas remain the domain of CLD, and all bar one of CLC's 7 helper/admins are active participants in CLD.

There is no JMod / clan leader discussion in CLC. If there were ever to be it would be following our goals to take a totally different approach - avoiding the cacophony created by the 'more ideas are better' type thinking - working on game solutions based firmly on community problems, focusing on the clan leader as an expert in the player community, through their experience with their own communities, ultimately to support the health of RS3 rather than just little bits and pieces clan leaders need for administration of clans - remember, no players, no clans - clan leaders are so much more.

Hope this clarifies.

@Shauny still waiting for you to reply to my discord messages.
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01-Dec-2017 23:30:48 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2017 04:26:35 by Noetica

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CLD - The purpose of this Discord is to help better network our clans, share events, build on and discuss clan based ideas that can be shared into CLF for further general discussion and presentation to Jagex.

CLC - We want to support Jagex by presenting our ideas for game improvements in a cohesive fashion. We also aim to work on community and clan projects as a team, taking a different approach to presenting our ideas to Jagex.

Two separate Discord channels, both with essentially the primary function to improve clans, is what I see as a duplication of effort.

Both channels use the CLF as a basis. It would seem natural that discussion of the same ideas occurs in both channels. This could result in unnecessary time/effort of each leader belonging to both channels, either through input or simple reading.

If the CLC is truly "complementary to how the CLD functions and [has] no duplication of effort" then there is a greater potential for anyone not belonging to both channels to be left out of the loop somewhere along the line.

Centralizing all the discussion of ideas into a single channel would ensure everyone is seeing the entire picture and would lessen gaps or repeats in communication. As clan leaders, we all have some sense of responsibility and should have a decent degree of maturity, so incorporating the functions of both channels into one shouldn't be difficult.

Since "all bar one of CLC's 7 helper/admins are active participants in CLD", it would appear to make sense that some of the functions of the CLC could easily transfer over to the CLD as committee or community projects, worked on by a subset of the CLD.

This is only my perception but I don't think I'm the only one to wonder why we need 2 Discord channels for the CLF when really everything done on both could logically be brought under one umbrella.

05-Dec-2017 12:47:18

Noetica
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I can address all of those points but not within CLF. Note you are also very correct but I would just like to say something regarding this statement:

"If the CLC is truly "complementary to how the CLD functions and [has] no duplication of effort" then there is a greater potential for anyone not belonging to both channels to be left out of the loop somewhere along the line"

All CLC projects are open to anyone to participate in and there is absolutely no need for them to join CLC - nor any intention of trying to persuade people to join. For example, the Collaborative Clans Survey! is independent of CLC.
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05-Dec-2017 15:32:15 - Last edited on 05-Dec-2017 15:58:39 by Noetica

Jigzag
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Lyrehca said :
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This is only my perception but I don't think I'm the only one to wonder why we need 2 Discord channels for the CLF when really everything done on both could logically be brought under one umbrella.

I think there is also a misunderstanding because neither sever is restricted to CLF members only. Both are trying to accommodate different methods of bring info back to CLF so since the methods don't match and there is no CLF sever to combine into, I think it makes sense the only one umbrella they are combining under is CLF itself and not a sever. /\
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Jigzag said :
Anyone have cool game goals for the new year?

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