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Zyphix
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Mod Matthe said :
Expansion of clan ban lists would require Engine work - there will be reasons that it was set at 100, probably set on data limitations. I am sure I looked into this before for the CLF but I'll double check.

There would also be significant issues with the clan UI that would require a significant rework to be able to handle the expanded lists.

Overall? Not a quick fix, as some might consider it is from an external viewpoint.

You did, and it was. We also could use another 100 names on our friend list, you know, in case we want to add EVERYONE to messaging from our clan only or something. Stinks removing somebody to add someone else all the time. Or allow PMs from the Clan List... Clan:
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09-Jan-2017 19:29:19

Dio Omicida
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Hopefully the updates make citi capping more attractive.
The xp rates in the citi have fallen behind in regards to updated external methods.
Maybe new plots to accommodate additional skills.

The ability to limit who can join the clan chat might help with the clan ban list.
If I can set a TL/CL cap like our clan has in place already for us to invite, it would limit the number of alts or friends who may try to join a chat to harass in the first place.

This may have already been addressed so I might just be spinning the same wheels here.
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10-Jan-2017 15:56:52

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Fire Hawk154 said :
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Clans and players already have enough tools to protect themselves.

Not true, reading through CLF makes abundantly clear that clans need additional tools. I've shared advice on multiple threads about suspicious guests just in the past few months. Just because you don't run into these problems with your clan does not mean others do not have to deal with them on a regular basis. In fact, that's exactly why its been brought up so many times over the years lol.

You're free to share your own ideas and priorities for updates but this discussion isn't about my clan or any clan's particular policies on guesting or any other issue for that matter. We don't need to explain or defend our policies to you or anyone else because our policies were developed to protect our members to the best of our ability . What works for us may not be the best option for other clans, and vice versa. Please understand and respect that fact.

Many leaders (myself included) have shared advice on our own clan's guesting policies in multiple threads in the CLF recently to help others deal with unwanted and potentially dangerous guests. Policy suggestions are merely suggestions, ultimately clans have always been free to make their own policies. Please extend this same courtesy to us as well.

Posting about another clan's policies while ignoring the issue at hand is basically derailing the thread. Trying to invalidate other's concerns and priorities based on your own experience isn't really what the CLF is for is it?

Back on topic, I repeat my premise:

Clans need and deserve to be protected and it is incumbent on Jagex to provide adequate tools and protections to its players.
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10-Jan-2017 20:49:40 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2017 21:07:55 by Seer of War

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Seer of War said :
Fire Hawk154 said :
Seer of War said :
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Clans and players already have enough tools to protect themselves.

Not true, reading through CLF makes abundantly clear that clans need additional tools.

Additional tools only give a false sense of protection, they are useless to block scammers as they'll always find a way to bypass a system. The only real protection from scamming is education. If you'd propose a proper educational system that teaches players to protect themselves, I'd be 100% supportive. But an expansion of the banlist is nothing but emptying the ocean with a slightly bigger thimble.
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11-Jan-2017 17:20:38 - Last edited on 11-Jan-2017 17:22:52 by Fire Hawk154

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Fire Hawk154 said :
Seer of War said :
Fire Hawk154 said :
Seer of War said :
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Clans and players already have enough tools to protect themselves.

Not true, reading through CLF makes abundantly clear that clans need additional tools.

Additional tools only give a false sense of protection, they are useless to block scammers as they'll always find a way to bypass a system. The only real protection from scamming is education. If you'd propose a proper educational system that teaches players to protect themselves, I'd be 100% supportive. But an expansion of the banlist is nothing but emptying the ocean with a slightly bigger thimble.

The ability to prevent f2p players from guesting would eliminate ~90% of the issue. The ability to create other criteria for guests (Total level, etc) would give us the ability to eliminate the vast majority of the rest of these issues. Increased ban list fixes the rest. Problem solved.

Edit: This is not a new suggestion. Its been brought up on multiple threads because its a real solution to a real problem.
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12-Jan-2017 16:18:27 - Last edited on 12-Jan-2017 16:24:47 by Seer of War

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Guess that's where we stand with clan updates for 2017. He is right that clan reworks do need to be done well and would therefore require a large allocation of resources but a shame that 2017 will not bring much of our desired clan updates. I hope 2018's updates are not done on the basis of yet another survey as we would probably see the same results.

Interested to hear what smaller/more manageable clan related updates can be brought in this year though.
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13-Jan-2017 17:20:02

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Seer of War said :
Fire Hawk154 said :
Seer of War said :
Fire Hawk154 said :
Seer of War said :
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Clans and players already have enough tools to protect themselves.

Not true, reading through CLF makes abundantly clear that clans need additional tools.

Additional tools only give a false sense of protection, they are useless to block scammers as they'll always find a way to bypass a system. The only real protection from scamming is education. If you'd propose a proper educational system that teaches players to protect themselves, I'd be 100% supportive. But an expansion of the banlist is nothing but emptying the ocean with a slightly bigger thimble.

The ability to prevent f2p players from guesting would eliminate ~90% of the issue. The ability to create other criteria for guests (Total level, etc) would give us the ability to eliminate the vast majority of the rest of these issues. Increased ban list fixes the rest. Problem solved.

Edit: This is not a new suggestion. Its been brought up on multiple threads because its a real solution to a real problem.


Being able to filter who can guest in your CC would solve many problems. I agree with Seer Of War. Most of the troll/spam accounts are alt-F2p accounts. Besides if your clan is only p2p and takes part in only p2p activities, there isnt a point of having a F2p person in there.
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