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Crywolf
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I like the looks of this!

I've always had the idea of being able to temp kick someone from the clan. The mute option could be a good alternate but having a kick feature from the chat (not the overall clan kick option that kicks people out of the clan) where they cannot rejoin the chat for an hour or so and then can rejoin after.

If someone had disruptive behaviour there isn't much that can be done. A kick option would be nice with the mute option as a good alternative!
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09-Apr-2015 18:11:28

Hazeel

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In the past I, and several others, have been put at risk due to a deadly loophole in the clan system. It basically involved an Organizer+ ranked member recruiting members, making them admins, and having them kick out clan members. Once these admins kicked out two members, they were kicked by the higher rank who would then recruit them again, make them admin, and continue the cycle. I know someone who lost their entire clan over this and I had to limit my own clan's ranking to Admin to ensure nobody ever did this.

Due to admin being the highest rank, our avatar usage is more limited than I would like it to be. Having more control over these permissions is a really a godsend. Is there an ETA on this update?
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09-Apr-2015 20:29:23

slhall42
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What I always did not like is that only admin and up can pull the ava. Is there anyway we can let any rank pull the ava. To have the ava out 24/7 means we will need to have alot of admins in the clan. If you have to many admins in the clan, then alot of ppl might step on each other toes in the clan and have a big mess on our hands. If we can set any rank to be avatar wardens, it will be alot better due to not having alot of admins trying to over power each other or let the rank goto thair heads. I know this might seem petty, but in my time as leading a clan. From 2005 till now I seen alot of members that let the rank of admin and up go to there heads and I had to demote them. If we can let any rank pull the ava, then we will no longer have this happen. And alot of ppl would make good avatar wardens that would not make a good admin.

12-Apr-2015 05:23:41

Ceecs
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slhall42 said :
What I always did not like is that only admin and up can pull the ava. Is there anyway we can let any rank pull the ava. To have the ava out 24/7 means we will need to have alot of admins in the clan. If you have to many admins in the clan, then alot of ppl might step on each other toes in the clan and have a big mess on our hands. If we can set any rank to be avatar wardens, it will be alot better due to not having alot of admins trying to over power each other or let the rank goto thair heads. I know this might seem petty, but in my time as leading a clan. From 2005 till now I seen alot of members that let the rank of admin and up go to there heads and I had to demote them. If we can let any rank pull the ava, then we will no longer have this happen. And alot of ppl would make good avatar wardens that would not make a good admin.


Unfortunatly only admin+ ranks can get the avatar, it has something to do with clan data etc. U might find a quote for it in Calm Enigma her thread called 'JMod Feedback' (it is one of the sticky's here).

I agree with what u say, there will be worked on but not in the near futur as clan mutes is coming as first.
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12-Apr-2015 08:52:55

Chief Popeye
Oct Member 2009

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slhall42 said :
What I always did not like is that only admin and up can pull the ava. Is there anyway we can let any rank pull the ava. To have the ava out 24/7 means we will need to have alot of admins in the clan. If you have to many admins in the clan, then alot of ppl might step on each other toes in the clan and have a big mess on our hands. If we can set any rank to be avatar wardens, it will be alot better due to not having alot of admins trying to over power each other or let the rank goto thair heads. I know this might seem petty, but in my time as leading a clan. From 2005 till now I seen alot of members that let the rank of admin and up go to there heads and I had to demote them. If we can let any rank pull the ava, then we will no longer have this happen. And alot of ppl would make good avatar wardens that would not make a good admin.


Easily solved by removing all "admin" abilities from those that are only avatar wardens and making your actual admins Organizers or Overseers. A little more time spent tweaking clan settings for owner or deputy owner, but fixes the issues of wardens having to be admin ranks.
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13-Apr-2015 16:55:38

DrBrokenBow

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Chief Popeye said :
slhall42 said :
What I always did not like is that only admin and up can pull the ava. Is there anyway we can let any rank pull the ava. To have the ava out 24/7 means we will need to have alot of admins in the clan. If you have to many admins in the clan, then alot of ppl might step on each other toes in the clan and have a big mess on our hands. If we can set any rank to be avatar wardens, it will be alot better due to not having alot of admins trying to over power each other or let the rank goto thair heads. I know this might seem petty, but in my time as leading a clan. From 2005 till now I seen alot of members that let the rank of admin and up go to there heads and I had to demote them. If we can let any rank pull the ava, then we will no longer have this happen. And alot of ppl would make good avatar wardens that would not make a good admin.


Easily solved by removing all "admin" abilities from those that are only avatar wardens and making your actual admins Organizers or Overseers. A little more time spent tweaking clan settings for owner or deputy owner, but fixes the issues of wardens having to be admin ranks.


Some clans may want to use ava summon as a reward, but altering the rank to admin just for a week, even if that admin rank has no privileges, is still a hassle.
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13-Apr-2015 17:11:15

Hoppuetwo
Aug Member 2007

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is there a way a clan leaver could leave clan leaders a note as to why they left? dose not happen much but i have had a few great people leave w/o any explanation, would be nice if there was a option as they left to leave a note =-)

13-Apr-2015 19:30:38

DrBrokenBow

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Hoppuetwo said :
is there a way a clan leaver could leave clan leaders a note as to why they left? dose not happen much but i have had a few great people leave w/o any explanation, would be nice if there was a option as they left to leave a note =-)


I would support this. As a leader I was always interested in why people would leave - it would give me a chance to improve on that for next time.
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13-Apr-2015 19:38:29

Ryanc360
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Hoppuetwo said :
is there a way a clan leaver could leave clan leaders a note as to why they left? dose not happen much but i have had a few great people leave w/o any explanation, would be nice if there was a option as they left to leave a note =-)


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