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Will Dee

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An ideal clan (for an event based clan) is one that has an active member base that relate and cooperate.

The rest are kind of thrown in there and belong to the 'modern clan' methods we look at now, some basic rules are of course needed and someone in power to remove trouble makers is required constant recruitment is needed if you're losing too many members in that case your member base is not really active. A member a month is actually more than enough.

For a Social Based clan you need more focus on rules and don't need relation.

Think of it like making a club in real life, you could simply be a bunch of people who enjoy playing soccer and do so on the weekends, or you can be official and all fancy where you'd need certain things.

An informal clan, as I like to call them, worries about the people/events and less about the system.
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24-Apr-2015 21:03:12 - Last edited on 24-Apr-2015 21:09:48 by Will Dee

Hazeel

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It is my strong belief that clans can't properly run with one leader and that all members need the opportunity to help lead. I can't imagine going back to a clan with exclusive leadership. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

24-Apr-2015 23:11:22

Seer of War

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Good points! One thing I would add is the ability to be flexible and to adapt.

I'm in my fifth year leading our group, and we've had to reinvent ourselves countless times by shifting our focuses based on our community's feedback. Clans that can be innovative and evolve can overcome larger changes outside of their control. That isn't to say its an easy process, but with a supportive team anything is possible! :P
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25-Apr-2015 05:06:38

Pescao6
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1) I dislike the idea of having a Central Leader because that causes a dependency on given person. Our clan solved this problem by granting permissions to different Staff Members so that they could take action without requiring approval.

2) Leaders need to know when to listen and when to make decisions of their own. As a Former Clanmate once told me, "Opinions are like assholes: everyone has one and they stink."

3) To add growth, lead Followers ; to multiply it, lead Leaders .

4) No matter what you do, you will never make everyone happy all of the time. But you can make any event fun for anyone.

5) It's important to let the Clan grow from new influences, but it's also important to keep traditions and remember where you came from.

6) I don't have a problem with having more active Staff Members than Regular Members so long as they're actively making decisions on their own instead of making requests or waiting to be told what to do.

7) Rules are written to be broken. They provide a discouragement to those who bother to read them, but more importantly reprimand protocols for the officials who uphold them.

8) Humans think; and because we think, dissonance theory demonstrated that our behavior transcends the effects of rewards and punishments and often contradicts them [Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me), Pages 14-15].

9) I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine (Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged).

10) The only important thing a Clan must have is its own Members; the rest are accessories.
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25-Apr-2015 07:33:13

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Ref. points 1 and 2...

In the Caped Carousers, we refer to this as consultative autocracy , and it works very well, thank you :)
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25-Apr-2015 08:07:21

Ajente02

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Nice thread, Andras.

I've made some months ago a similar thread (I'm studying Political Science) on the Spanish Forums. You can see the thread here .

1.) A Strong Central Command
[N]

As Pescao stated above, it's my personal opinion that a centrilized, authoritarian, autocratic leadership is unhealthy for any ''ideal clan''. With the absence of the leader, the clan dies.
Meanwhile, in a shared-leadership clan, the absence of one leader doesn't affect the development of the clan.

2.) Open-Minded Central Command
[Y]

Indeed. Clan leader(s) shouldn't think his own voice is more important/veridical than the rest of his clanmate's voices.

3.) An Active Member-base
[Y]

I think this is more than obvious... No need to explain. :P

4.) Can People Relate?
[N]

In my own case, my clan takes part on a bigger group of players, a micro-community known as ''Spanish Community''. In this community, each clan is specialized in a specific area (PvM, PvP, Skilling, Questing, etc), so a clan too ''wide open to any activity'' would be very weak and would die within weeks.

5.) Constant Recruitment
[MAYB]

We're not on an ''active, constant recruiting'', but in a passive, casual one. Our growth has leaded us to get people even If we don't make any active recruitment.

6.) A Proper Ratio Of Leaders To Members
[Y]

Our ratio is roughly 1 leader per each 50 members (in a clan of 266 people, that's 5 leaders).

7.) Rules
[N]

That depends of the clan's maturity...

8.) Reinforcement and Punishment
[N]

^

9.) Cooperation
[Y]


10.) Resources
[Y]

My clan has website, FaceBook, Skype, RaidCall, etc.
A clan is just like a business, and the successful business has contacts and networks everywhere.
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26-Apr-2015 19:14:13

Ajente02

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Long story short, I don't believe there's an ''ideal clan'', because the definition of ideal clan depends of each individual. Some people may want an organized, stratified clans; but perhaps some people would like a clan just for chillin' out.

There's no absolute consensus on what could be an ''ideal clan'', so everything said on this thread are just speculations based on your own specific experiences in your own specific clan.
Ajente02,
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26-Apr-2015 19:18:51

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