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Scret
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I find it funny that the majority of clans that have formed from ours because of disagreements with the rules or other parts of the structure tend to copy it when they create their new clan. I would say it makes no sense but i know exactly the reasons as to why they do it and the real reasons as to why they leave.
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07-Jan-2016 10:46:00

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This one hits close to home. In the end the majority of members/friends don't care about leadership or the clan as a whole. They just want to be around the same people, to fulfill their selfishness.

It doesn't matter what happened, they just want to be with their 'friends'. And what Scret said is all too true; they end up making a clan almost identical to what they had. I kind of know what it is that motivates them but not with certainty (don't know their personal reasons).

-Climbing up the ladder / high on power (seeing better opportunities when something like this occurs)
-Staying with 'friends' (also in the hopes to improve their position/self-gain)
-People lie. When members leave, what do you think they're gonna say about you and your clan? Doubt it will be nice words. It takes all but a few words to win them over. (convincing them you're the evil and why they should join their clan instead)

I had it happen with my clan twice, one of those rip-off clans didn't last longer than 6 months and the other one is already on the verge of breaking down. Personally I can't understand what motivates people to ditch leadership/being in a clan when the shit hits the fan for what .. to begin a new clan and start all over again? #logic

I still can't quite put my finger on it but at the same time, I learned a valuable lesson... even when members become your closest friends, you spend time with them every day , making history together .. in the end it doesn't matter. You'll be put in the spot-lights as a bad guy and they'll start a new cycle in which they'll face the same issues months/years after creating their new clan.

Out of 300 unique members, only 2 remained close friends after we decided to quit trying to make it work. The job turned into a chore and we won't allow these situations to happen to us ever again. I'm sorry this happened to you, but I'm afraid 'friends' on RS is a big word, if they were truly friends, they would have sticked around...
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07-Jan-2016 15:32:14

Tribelewits

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Scret said :
I would say it makes no sense but i know exactly the reasons as to why they do it and the real reasons as to why they leave.


Yeh, they barely ever say the true reason why they leave tbh. Often they want to leave, but stick around for quite some time and in that time, create a bunch of extra reasons before they go. Trying to make the ones staying the 'bad' ones.

Eventually they leave complaining about the rules and systems etc, but truth is, they'v been actually thinking about leaving for quite some time. And the smallest thing gets pulled out of proportion to add to the "why-i-should-leave-pile"

Its a typical human thing to do tbh, however, the spitefull and grudgy poaching, wanting to destroy the other clan, is just sad tbh.

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07-Jan-2016 18:22:33

Vera

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Before this thread gets locked as a "gravebump"--I looked through
Sookie Lala
's CLF profile history (cus she mah clan leader <3), and wanted to share some of my thoughts since they seem so contrary to the consensus.

(Btw Sookie, I like your post on
Cuddlebucket
's Make this forum more exclusive :

"If so, sorry I disagree, I would love to see more clan leaders having access, even brand new leaders. I feel they can give a different perspective on running a clan and what sort of things are needed nowadays to keep a clan healthy, plus what ever problems new clans are having. Their views may be focused on totally different issues than we here have." )

A lot of the responses here keep mentioning loyalty, and I understand that, but I think respect is more important than loyalty. Respect that each person is an individual and that your style might not be compatible with someone else's, and on the converse, respect for how someone decides to run a clan that either you for the most part but not completely agree with, or that you disagree with enough to leave.

I've noticed that some of my friends in-game happen to hate each other. Which is fair, but how I guess I "survive" it is I might dislike someone in one function but absolutely love them in another--as in, I have a base level of respect for everyone I meet, even if I absolutely despise them for some reason or another.

A great piece of advice from an upperclassmen is how just because someone's not a good teammate doesn't mean they're a bad friend, and the same goes for friends and clannies. It's possible to still remain friends so long as a mutual respect for individuality is present.
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