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Ryanc360
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I like the proposed changes except for this bit:
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Once you have obtained the Charter you had to "use" it on other people, which meant everyone who wants to be a founder has to stop what they are doing and travel to the Clan Camp. To try and make this a little simpler, we plan on allowing you to enter a name into a dialogue box, this will then send the same message to that person as long as they are on the same world as you, this also means they don't have to stop what they are doing.


If the founders don't want to stop what they are doing to form the clan then they don't deserve to be a founder. They need to be actively involved with the clan they are starting, and if they start off lazy and unwilling to put in 5 minutes (not even) then the clan isn't off to a great start.
Make them work for it. God forbid they stop getting xp for a couple minutes.

02-Jun-2015 19:27:46 - Last edited on 02-Jun-2015 19:28:34 by Ryanc360

Ceecs
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Ryanc360 said :
I like the proposed changes except for this bit:
Original message details are unavailable.
Once you have obtained the Charter you had to "use" it on other people, which meant everyone who wants to be a founder has to stop what they are doing and travel to the Clan Camp. To try and make this a little simpler, we plan on allowing you to enter a name into a dialogue box, this will then send the same message to that person as long as they are on the same world as you, this also means they don't have to stop what they are doing.


If the founders don't want to stop what they are doing to form the clan then they don't deserve to be a founder. They need to be actively involved with the clan they are starting, and if they start off lazy and unwilling to put in 5 minutes (not even) then the clan isn't off to a great start.
Make them work for it. God forbid they stop getting xp for a couple minutes.


Good point, clan creation does not take that long. If a clan can not bring 5 people together to found it, it should not deserve to be a clan. They can hang out in a friend chat instead
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03-Jun-2015 11:11:45

Scret
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Shadesidhe said :
I see no problem with making the creation of clans easier. Yes, there will be more that fail, but I think the ratio will stay fairly stable. That means there will also be more clans that succeed. If they fail, they fail.

We already have that issue, but there are things in place now to start weeding out inactive clans. So Jagex is doing what they can there to help that situation.

And in the long run, perhaps you will find some of those people coming back to clans when they realize how much work it really is. They may not try harder to level up, but will still be active players.

I think it is a good thing overall in the long run.


The reality is though that most never return, just leaves a big hole in the clan they left and for many clans who cant recover from that leaves more dead clans around, this isnt theory this is what currently happens.

I know people disagreed with me on making it harder to start a clan but im certainly not in agreement with making it easier especially when it really doesnt need to be.

As for invatations topic, this can be made easier, its fine, theres some sort of myth that only person to person meeting in game is more personlised, its not, talking in person and over pm is absolutely no difference
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03-Jun-2015 22:03:56 - Last edited on 03-Jun-2015 22:04:56 by Scret

Mod Asherz

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So after reading your comments I will be leaving the Clan Creation alone. After a small review with all your comments we feel that it is as good as it gets.

Just to re-iterate I will NOT be touching clan Permissions as this is a very big job and does not fit in line with Ninja Improvements.

Replies to some questions and ideas :) :

Sani btw said :
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Full list of clans that are set to "Recruiting".

How would this work? A giant list of all clans in RuneScape (would take a looooot of space), or just a small(er) list that is filtered based on something like homeworlds?
Enter the name of the person who wants to join.

This would be very good for recruitment in busier areas. Really like the idea!
Newer graphics on the Clan interface.

This is really a must. The confusion between the current buttons is way too annoying. Now, when someone clicks the 'leave chat' button, they think they permanently leave the clan.
Overal, I think many of the things listed would be a great addition :)

Point 1 - This will live inside a new Tab on the Community Interface. It will show a list of clans that are "Recruiting" and have more than 5 members. It will just be a list with their logo's and clan name. In which you can click on them to gain more information. This will would be updated maybe every hour up to once a day.

SofaKing said :
I like this, one thing I'd suggest while you are changing the buttons in clan tab, one of them could really use a more... descriptive tooltip.
"leave your clan chat channel" --> "leave your clan chat channel but remain a member of your clan"
I've encountered a lot of players who 'think' they left their last clan, but haven't
I like you are doing a new interface for clan invites.
If possible, it would be nice if there were a 'join as guest' on it, especially for players that have cooldown time. If they accept it, they would auto-join as a guest. That would be pretty helpful, it can be difficult to explain how to be a guest.
- As part of this we are changing the icons to better represent what each button does.

NWO Sharum said :
Regarding inviting players, could we have a way to know who invites who?
Right now you can toggle a broadcast saying B has joined the clan.
Would it be possible for it to be something similar to A has recruited B into the clan?
- this might be possible. I'll investigate

Hope this helps out a little. But please keep the ideas and feedback coming :)
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04-Jun-2015 13:07:35

AoDude

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Mod Asherz said :
So after reading your comments I will be leaving the Clan Creation alone. After a small review with all your comments we feel that it is as good as it gets.


Can we get an updated idea of what your new scope would be? I assume getting a larger market share of clan-less into clans is still the main focus...
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04-Jun-2015 14:04:37

Mod Asherz

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So yeah I will mainly be focusing on the new "Clan Tab" to show a list of clans that are "Recruiting". As well as trying to make it easier to actually recruit. So if you have some ideas then please write them down :D
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04-Jun-2015 17:04:49

SofaKing

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EDIT: Apologies, never mind this. I looked at the other thread and I seen that you are taking a look at the 'leave chat channel' tooltip not just the images on the buttons, so got my answer. Thank you. This should help a lot.

It would be cool however, if sending invites to players who are on cooldown gave them a similar invitation to join as a guest. Maybe accepting it would force open their clan tab and make the 'join guest clanchat' button start blinking so they know where to click?

04-Jun-2015 17:48:24 - Last edited on 04-Jun-2015 19:14:38 by SofaKing

AoDude

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Mod Asherz said :
So yeah I will mainly be focusing on the new "Clan Tab" to show a list of clans that are "Recruiting". As well as trying to make it easier to actually recruit. So if you have some ideas then please write them down :D


Well, a nice addition to the guest button I mentioned earlier... It would be nice to be able to right click->invite on people guesting in your clan chat. It would even save the step of having to type their name into a box...

Oh, and if all goes well with the guest button on the tab, it would be nice to show up on the clan vex too!
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04-Jun-2015 22:32:01 - Last edited on 04-Jun-2015 22:32:55 by AoDude

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