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SofaKing

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It's mentioned in that thread new ways to invite for admin+ but it wasnt clear on recruit-general.

I have always allowed even recruit ranked clannies to recruit (which is possible) is this going to change?

really hope they will still be able to send invites

01-Jun-2015 17:33:01 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2015 17:48:46 by SofaKing

Scret
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Sani btw said :
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Thanks! Will have a good read through when I get back home :)

EDIT:

Full list of clans that are set to "Recruiting".

How would this work? A giant list of all clans in RuneScape (would take a looooot of space), or just a small(er) list that is filtered based on something like homeworlds?


The way i see this working is the list is comprised of what vex is currently in that vex stand?
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SKILL SCHOOL
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01-Jun-2015 18:34:03

Scret
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The area of effect for vex is a nice addition, but the massive central banner randomising clans? i really dont see the point, people can already see which vex's are up, itll just look daft.
`*•.¸(*•.¸(`*•.¸+¸.•*´)¸.•*)¸.•*´
+«´¨`•°
SKILL SCHOOL
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. .•*(¸.•*´(¸.•*´+`*•.¸)`*•.¸)*•.

01-Jun-2015 18:47:36

Thylordship
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When you do find someone who wants to join your clan, an Admin+ with the right permissions has to arrange a meet place and find them, this is because they have to click a button and target the player.
As Sofaking says, the underlined is not correct. Any clan member with the recruit permission is able to recruit players... this being said, I don't think this fact affects the proposed change?

01-Jun-2015 19:08:07 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2015 19:09:31 by Thylordship

Thylordship
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On to my actual Feedback:

The Big Vex:
I'm not saying this is bad, but this is not interesting to me at all. Bigger than this, the fact you have to click on a vex to see the clan it belongs to is by far the worst part of this. No matter how large it is, the purpose is lost if people don't know which clan it is and don't want to check in case the recruiter thinks he's interested.

If it's possible to have the examine information on a vex changed to displaying the clan's name, then people recognizing clans through their vex becomes more commonplace as it's less intrusive to find out (having an interface overwhelm your screen).

I think a full list of recruiting clans is more useful than a showy vex of a mysterious clan.



Feedback on everything else: Full support on the rest of the dev blog and can't wait!

I'm just going to stick this here

01-Jun-2015 19:23:26 - Last edited on 02-Jun-2015 04:27:23 by Thylordship

Bloodi Arrow

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Mod Matthe said :
Freud said :
What happened to the rest of the ideas from the permission rewrite? None of it can go through?


This is a review of the Clan Funnel, the creation and joining experience for the Clan and not for the administration of existing Clans. The various features of the Clan Permission Rewrite were broken out and added to backlogs but this is not the project that will deal with those.


Fix what you have already. The biggest problem with the clan system is the administration and permissions. Creating clans and enhancing the joining experience is not an important issue. This should be addressed after the administration. You're encouraging clans to be created in a broken system. Fix the system first.

01-Jun-2015 19:29:00 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2015 19:30:00 by Bloodi Arrow

NWO Sharum
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Regarding inviting players, could we have a way to know who invites who?

Right now you can toggle a broadcast saying B has joined the clan.

Would it be possible for it to be something similar to A has recruited B into the clan?
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01-Jun-2015 21:24:02

Sookie Lala

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I love the vex idea, Mod maz is awesome.

I am not too keen on the founding process though, I feel the whole point of a clan is to communicate with and hang out with a bunch of people they feel a commitment to. Not even having to meet to found a clan and citadel seems to me to go against this. If people cannot take a few minutes to meet up and organise the setting up of a clan then should they really be thinking of starting a clan at all? Founding a clan should take communication, time and work.

I also don't understand why you are making it so only admin and above can recruit. Our clan has it set so anyone can recruit and we find it works well that way.

There's more I want to say but I don't have time atm and need to reread the thread anyways.
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01-Jun-2015 21:58:52

SofaKing

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If someone cannot even get 4 other people to meet them in the clan camp for 5 minutes, what makes Jagex think these people are fit to lead a clan? Why is it that jagex is making it possible for this kind of clan to spring up? They will surely fail? I mean is it really necessary?

From a leaders perspective, I feel it is unfair to the 4 people who unwittingly follow any founder who requires this to be streamlined in order to start their clan.

01-Jun-2015 22:15:01 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2015 22:48:32 by SofaKing

Thylordship
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I don't understand this "founders must be worthy" message. Our leader started the clan with 4 complete strangers who went on to go inactive or got themselves kicked. Soon after creation, our leader left RS until we were ~50 people strong and returned to a budding clan. (Don't get me wrong, our leader has been indispensable to our clan and without whom we wouldn't be here today, but that's beside the point.) Now we're a clan that has been around since before EoC, with over 400 members, and a T7 citadel.

Clans need leadership, not founders in my opinion. And sometimes you need a name before you can get leaders. I don't think it's wrong to make the system more accommodating, especially since you still have to find 4 people to do it. It just takes out the running and hassle which don't really prove anything.

02-Jun-2015 02:25:05

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