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Tigergal44

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Clan Life

On the surface all is peaceful and healthy within the Clan. Peaceful I would agree with 99% of the time (mainly because very few talk) but healthy I am not so sure about. Of our 277 members only a 1/5 play in any given week (50-70 people), which in its self is not a problem. Of the 60ish playing less than half will visit / help in the Citadel. The Citadel is healthy so this is not a problem but when combined with my next point it shows where the Clan is unhealthy. Of the 60 or so playing how many interact with the Clan, i.e. how many talk?


There are a number who say hello when they enter the cc, a far smaller number who give a reply to that hello. If you want to be seen in Clan say hello, and if you wish others to reply then be one of those who says Hi back. The number that have left over the last year saying the cc is dead and everybody ignores them when they come in! In most cases I can reply that they themselves were no more active than those they complain about. Then we have a small number who only talk in cc to ask questions - not replying to hellos (even when their question cuts into the middle of greeting someone) - not answering others questions - and often not even an acknowledgement that their question was answered. Fortunately the number taking the Clan's propensity to help for granted in this way is very small. We are not a walking W*kiped*a, we are not here solely to help - if you want help / advice/ best methods etc then contribute to the Clan environment.


There are a large number who never talk, who I suspect do not even have chats open, because they cannot surely be that rude. They do not help the Clan or its environment in any way - they are invisible ghosts.

to be continued

01-Apr-2016 07:41:51 - Last edited on 01-Apr-2016 07:44:59 by Tigergal44

Tigergal44

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But finally there is a small group that I love. They reply to others and they spark conversations, often non Runescape related. Impromptu chatter that reminds me of what we used to be like pre eoc, and that makes the cc a fun place to be logged into. Last week there was a joke telling session that sprung up for a while the dead cc was a great place to be in.


I guess the message in this long ramble is that we will have the Clan we deserve. If we are active, involved and engage with each other it will be a pleasant place to be. If we don't then the cc and the Clan is dead.

01-Apr-2016 07:41:58 - Last edited on 01-Apr-2016 07:46:10 by Tigergal44

Tigergal44

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Clan Rules - sorry this one is long & rambling

I am proposing that we cut the Clan rules down to just two
1/ Respect for fellow players & in particular Clan members and guests.
2/ Help each other and the Clan

Respect is more tricky than some realise. It is not avoiding all contentious subjects or saying only what is pleasing to all. In a nutshell it is treating others how you would like to be treated. We are a very diverse group spanning all continents (except Antarctica) , many religions, and politics from the far left to far right. This very diverse mix is a golden opportunity to broaden our horizons and learn from each other. There are no longer any children in the Clan, there are no actively playing family groups, we are all adults and as such should have the maturity to interact without the protection of rules.

We should also have the maturity to ignore conversations that we personally find not to our liking. Now I don't mean shut up and disappear from the cc for a while (though that is an option, while not desirable, that I do do myself). I will give an example - I personally find I am very uncomfortable with conversations on how easy Boss kills are / how many Bosses killed/ the fortune made by lucky drops. Such talk makes me feel inadequate & useless. I will make a comment about Bosses not being easy for everyone, etc but if the conversation continues it is my problem not the cc. It is up to me to control my reactions or remove myself from the conversation. The same applies to many topics, we should live and let live. (I am not giving carte blanche for any topic - remember respect)

Just as you may find the way someone talks / thinks or what they talk about to be disrespectful, they will probably find being told so equally disrespectful. Before all out war starts - step back and have a moment of honesty - how would you feel if somebody just spoke to you as you have spoken to them.

01-Apr-2016 07:42:05 - Last edited on 01-Apr-2016 07:47:32 by Tigergal44

Tigergal44

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Help


Help each other and help the Clan should be very straight forward.

Helping the Clan - if you wish to benefit from what the Clan offers then it is only right that you contribute.

- If you wish to benefit from the Clan Avatars then contribute to the upkeep of the Citadel.
- If you want help / advice then offer help too.

We do have a few walking W*kipedia's in the Clan but do not leave it all to them. For example it is a lot easier for someone recently finished a quest to answer a question on that quest than someone who completed it 5+ years ago.


- As we play we all have different areas of expertise and knowledge. Contribute when you can, it can be as simple as calling the Priff hours, a penguin location, a crystal tree or where the circus is. Everybody can contribute.

01-Apr-2016 07:42:12 - Last edited on 01-Apr-2016 07:48:34 by Tigergal44

Tigergal44

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Language


The observant amongst you will have noticed I dropped the language rule in my proposal. I certainly do not want the cc to be fill of abuse, ****** exploits, strings of constant 4 letter words but ..... I have tried to operate using the current rule and a broad grey band, this has not always been successful. Quite frankly pulling up the occasional minor slang, swearing or blasphemy stifles what little chatter we have in cc. As a side note a wise man (Billy Connolly) once said "go away" yelled at the top of your voice is not as effective as a quietly spoken "* *** ". Now I would not like to see that language in cc but he has a point.

The language rule has over the years caused the most upset / disruption. Frankly people object to being pulled up for minor bad language or for what for them culturally is slang at the worst and maybe part of everyday language. e.g the word 'bugger' is for me an everyday word that has an affectionate place in my culture, I do understand that for other cultures it is swearing (part of us being in such a diverse group).

01-Apr-2016 07:42:18 - Last edited on 01-Apr-2016 07:51:27 by Tigergal44

Tigergal44

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I was accused a few months ago of not being consistent, not following the language rules myself (yes I have sworn in cc and have been known to participate in suggestive language) and basically pull up instances depending on who it is. My reply at the time was yes I am human but I have been thinking it over since then. I am not comfortable upholding rules that are not me.

So who am I? My first job was as a Meat Inspector - the only female among 5-6 thousand men (they had a special union vote to see if they would let me in way back then), so as you can imagine there is very little language I have not heard and my own mouth is not pure. I do keep it minor in public and would never swear at someone (that is disrespectful). I thoroughly enjoyed the 50 shades of Runescape discussion that ensued from a certain sword a couple of months ago (another double standards discussion) and think that as long as the discussion is clean fun then it is ok.

I am very much hoping that dropping the Language rule and letting respect handle it will make no difference for most of us.

Ranks

Current ranks are not working but whatever way I jump many are going to be upset - therefore I will be thinking more before suggesting changes.

01-Apr-2016 07:49:45 - Last edited on 01-Apr-2016 07:55:47 by Tigergal44

Tigergal44

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Wise Thoth takes out the honours this week with 2 100 mill milestones. Also taking a bow is Host1260 with 2 99s. Well done both.

Level 120
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Our 99 Achievers this week are :-


Host1269 - 99 Summon, 99 Attack
Raziiel - 99 Constitution




Xp milestones for the week

Wise Thoth - 100m Wood & 100mill Rune

Overall xp :-

Wise Thoth - 2.95 bill
Elber - 1.175 bill
Jim*hall - 725 mill
DivineOsiris - 575 mill
FSM Soleran - 525 mill
XLG - 400 mill
Murz - 150 mill
ijustskill - 50 mill

08-Apr-2016 06:04:55

Tigergal44

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Ok scrap trying to change the Clan rules - it appears some are not mature enough to know what is or is not appropriate in public.

We lost one of our oldest and most respected members during that pathetic display earlier - very sad to see you go - and sorry your game was ruined by such immaturity.

And I am sick and tired of signing in and doing nothing but standing still reading what has gone on while I have been away. I would have thought respect would be such a simple rule and so easy to understand. I sign into Runescape to play the game and to enjoy myself!

A feed up to the back teeth - Tiger

12-Apr-2016 05:17:07

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