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Draco Burnz
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Mel 624 said :


Yet its only "antagonizing" if you let it bother you.

Plus you cant say that ppl dont have absolute 0 right to use these items as they 100% do.

Its almost like saying that ppl who choose to get bothered by cosmetics should be able to hide those. Ppl have just as much right to use these rings as they do cosmetics.

So everyone does know these type of ppl only hang out in popular areas so if you choose to go to said places, you're only asking for this to happen.

Popular areas meaning varrock ge and w84 portables. Theres plenty of other worlds and ge you can use.
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20-May-2022 11:26:03 - Last edited on 20-May-2022 22:33:52 by Draco Burnz

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20-May-2022 12:53:53

Mel 624
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A big tree physically obstructing your view of what you're trying interact with is going to bother whether your try to ignore it or not. Telling people to ignore the problem doesn't magically make it disappear. There isn't really any point going over this for he millionth time so it'd be best to move onto discussing actual solutions.

I'd also like to point out that this isn't about people's "right" to a cosmetic, as I never claimed such a thing and never suggested its removal from the game. However, owning an item or cosmetic doesn't entitle you to griefing others. Jagex can and has removed content due to being heavily abused for unintended uses. Again, I'm not saying the ring of trees should be removed from the game but that is very much something that has been done in the past to address content abuse the same way limiting the use of existing items that get misused for griefing is another thing they've done. To claim that players are entitled to be able to misuse items to grief others and that no limitations can be applied if deemed necessary is simply false. How to block a forum user

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20-May-2022 23:53:51

Draco Burnz
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Yes it is going to annoy ppl, but ppl have every right to use it and for it to be seen.

I mean ppl have to deal with overbearing cosmetics even though some find those annoying, so why should these be any different?

Plus just because some use these for this manor isnt a reason why others who dont should be punished too.

Theresa also the matter that why cant ppl just go to other places?

Once again, ppl choose to go to these areas, why cant ppl just take responsibility?

If jagex just got rid/hide everything that annoyed everyone, this game wouldnt have anything left.
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21-May-2022 00:08:40 - Last edited on 21-May-2022 01:49:26 by Draco Burnz

Mel 624
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Likening it to just cosmetics in general isn't the same thing. We're talking about actual griefing, not differing tastes in aesthetics. As with the examples I've given previously, that some people use content as intended isn't enough to keep it from getting restricted/removed if the misuse of it gets bad enough. It can be upsetting to players when stuff like that happens but it doesn't mean they get to keep the problem from getting fixed just because they're inconvenienced by what ended up being the solution.

Expecting players to go to another place isn't really feasible where this stuff ends up happening. Banks and skilling areas are in fixed locations. Group skilling tends to happen in specific worlds and areas. Moving often isn't an option unless a new area is made specifically for that function with things like the ring of trees disabled. That's why one of the suggestions I made for this issue was to change portables and rework guilds to make them a suitable area for people to get those benefits without griefing. If you want people to move you have provide a way to make that actually viable. Right now this is mostly an issue being raised in relation to skillers trying to use skilling resources in the worlds and areas they're supposed to be skilling in while people are trying to obstruct their ability to do so. There's also the possibility that my other suggestion of requiring a minimum distance from the center of the GE to use the ring may still be necessary to account for anyone else still at GE if it remains a problem for them.

There's just no sense in blaming skillers for getting griefed in areas they gather in and are intended to use. Even if they move griefers specifically seek out any popular skilling area unless specifically preventing them from griefing in that way. It's not their fault for getting targeted and antagonized. How to block a forum user

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21-May-2022 02:02:30

Draco Burnz
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If ppl are targeting others for harassment, then im sure thats reportable offense thus you should do so.

Plus i fail to see how its just skillers getting harassed when these ppl seem to do it to everyone equally?

They do usually appear at ge where anyone visits not just skillers, so i fail to see how this is targeted?
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21-May-2022 12:07:52

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I agree. People do it purely to try and spite people, and then get all defensive about it if ppl do acknowledge it annoys them. The people that are tree actively taunt players in chat as well. Then they proceed to report or claim to report ppl that get a bit too annoyed and do say things they shouldn't. But they're the ones actively provoking them, punish both lol.

Removing the ability to troll like this would not devalue the cosmetic and you could still use it elsewhere.

People don't stand there being trees because they like the cosmetic, it's purely done in hopes of getting a reaction by blocking a lot of ppls view. This also isn't just any cosmetic, this is something that completely covers a major part of your view for prolonged periods of time, unlike even the biggest cosmetics.

There are many reason why someone shouldn't have to go elsewhere because others are purposely trying to give someone a bad time. Portables and Pulse Cores will attract people trying to train their skills.

I disagree with suggesting that people purposely being annoyed by tree-people should just go elsewhere or that this is somehow their fault.

It's not because something is technically possible, that it should be a free card to use it in ways to purposely try and annoy people, that's just bad behaviour and does not create a nice experience for everyone else, and I'm pretty sure that's what every online game should try to create, an enjoyable experience for everyone.

22-May-2022 13:49:00 - Last edited on 22-May-2022 14:07:09 by Guides

Mel 624
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It can be difficult to pick out which name in the crowd of people is the player you're trying to report. It's also primarily targeted at skillers because they're doing it in popular skilling locations. Their presence at GE is mostly because they're trying to obstruct the portable skilling stations people use there. If it wasn't about skillers then you wouldn't be seeing them at wisp colonies or canons/flowers in anachronia, which they finally did something about. There also wouldn't be an increase of incidents during DXP weekends.

I'm not saying skillers are the only ones affected, I'm pointing out that they're the primary targets of this behaviour. How to block a forum user

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