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BoxOfLemon
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So we should just accept people not being able to see what portables are out and have to mouse over everything just to see where a portable is at? I get it, it's possible but imagine new players to the game learning about this awesome world where people can skill together and seeing half the GE covered in trees.

And everyone's suggestion is "Use a different world", so use a dead world with like 3 people in GE? No one to talk to, no one to interact with.

I don't have any practical issues with the ring of trees, it's more of how is this MMO looking like from the outside. If a friend wants to show off this games playerbase to another friend but the glowing examples are just filled with trees, do you think they will be encouraged to join RS? Or just think it's a silly game.

The ring of rocks and coins and such were fine, 1x1 and height-wise wasn't tall and in the way.

Also these trees aren't around for a few minutes, they are being used for a few hours. And why can't we use cannons in the GE? I believe (not 100% sure) that they removed the ability to set cannons in the GE because they were too disruptive.

01-Apr-2022 06:00:37

Draco Burnz
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BoxOfLemon said :

And everyone's suggestion is "Use a different world", so use a dead world with like 3 people in GE? No one to talk to, no one to interact with.



Did anyone ever say that? Last i checked no, thus you shouldnt be putting words into ppls mouths.

Just use one that isnt as crowded as the ones that are are the ones that trolls that like to use these hang out on.

Plus theres others places you can talk to ppl besides ge.

So if you restrict yourself to only one area, of course it'll be "dead" on some worlds.
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01-Apr-2022 23:43:26 - Last edited on 01-Apr-2022 23:45:06 by Draco Burnz

BoxOfLemon
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Draco Burnz said :
BoxOfLemon said :

And everyone's suggestion is "Use a different world", so use a dead world with like 3 people in GE? No one to talk to, no one to interact with.



Did anyone ever say that? Last i checked no, thus you shouldnt be putting words into ppls mouths.

Just use one that isnt as crowded as the ones that are are the ones that trolls that like to use these hang out on.

Plus theres others places you can talk to ppl besides ge.

So if you restrict yourself to only one area, of course it'll be "dead" on some worlds.



Sorry but you did say "Ppl are allowed to use items wherever they please as they arent hurting anyone." which I've seen them use them on or right next to portables after just one person asked them to please move over a couple tiles so they can at least see where the portable is at.

There are people who intend to troll with the ring of trees, but I've noticed most of the posts (not just here, other sites as well) have issues with trolling close to the GE. Would a range limit to GE really be that restricting to people? You would still be able to see the pretty trees while standing at the bank, but at least you can see the bank teller.

I didn't expect people to defend trolling so intensely, I thought it was a small thing to ask.

02-Apr-2022 04:31:57

Mel 624
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I've found that most threads bringing up the issue of griefing skillers with ring of trees, flowers and canons tend to get the switch worlds/go somewhere else response. It just doesn't seem like a constructive and helpful way of addressing the actual problem, especially when accompanied by claims that there isn't one or that people should just deal with it.

Maybe if you need to be a certain amount of tiles away from the bankers and GE clerks but portables can be placed a few tiles closer than players using the ring of trees, that would help at least somewhat since there'd be space to place portables that won't get trees put on top.

There was talk in another thread about replacing portables with guild specific buffs as part of a guild rework idea, which would likely address the issue as well.
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02-Apr-2022 04:54:39

Draco Burnz
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BoxOfLemon said :


I didn't expect people to defend trolling so intensely, I thought it was a small thing to ask.


Im not defending anything, just that ppl shouldnt be limited on what they can use and where they can use them.

So how being able to limit where/when ppl can/cant use things is somehow considered a "small ask" is beyond me.
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02-Apr-2022 11:23:14 - Last edited on 02-Apr-2022 11:23:51 by Draco Burnz

Xanny-Zan
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Mel 624 said :
I've found that most threads bringing up the issue of griefing skillers with ring of trees, flowers and canons tend to get the switch worlds/go somewhere else response. It just doesn't seem like a constructive and helpful way of addressing the actual problem, especially when accompanied by claims that there isn't one or that people should just deal with it.

Maybe if you need to be a certain amount of tiles away from the bankers and GE clerks but portables can be placed a few tiles closer than players using the ring of trees, that would help at least somewhat since there'd be space to place portables that won't get trees put on top.

There was talk in another thread about replacing portables with guild specific buffs as part of a guild rework idea, which would likely address the issue as well.


Absolutely agree, world 84 is a prime example. It is specifically for the use of portables, telling people to "Use a different world" doesn't help in the least when this is a specific world set up for skillers.
It is frustrating and is causing dissention amongst the players, how simple would it be to just disallow them at the GE and bring back some community spirit which I have found is pretty rare out there in game these days.
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27-Apr-2022 03:41:21

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I hope you can see this image, world 84 right now, at least 8 trees, it's crazy and not funny anymore. [imgur src=]https://imgur.com/k3gAYeg[imgur src=] Don't push me cuz I'm close to the edge!

27-Apr-2022 03:50:48 - Last edited on 27-Apr-2022 03:53:21 by Xanny-Zan

Draco Burnz
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Xanny-Zan said :


Absolutely agree, world 84 is a prime example. It is specifically for the use of portables, telling people to "Use a different world" doesn't help in the least when this is a specific world set up for skillers.
It is frustrating and is causing dissention amongst the players, how simple would it be to just disallow them at the GE and bring back some community spirit which I have found is pretty rare out there in game these days.


Considering portables are so cheap, yes you can use a different world.

Plus if you know this happens yet you still go to this world, then you only have yourself to blame.
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27-Apr-2022 11:24:58

Mel 624
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It's really not people's fault for getting griefed while trying to use a world for its intended purpose. There's no need to resort to victim blaming on this.

People aren't just gathering around to pool portables but also cores. Going somewhere else would mean not being able to maintain the core boosts as effectively since you may end up having to swap between both constantly for lack of anyone else using any nearby and it'll likely impact skilling efficiency due to the added inventory management.
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27-Apr-2022 18:21:39

DarknessJak
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A  Cole said :
The ring of trees, when activated, blocks other players views of the game world. This is often used in highly populated worlds on top of portables.

When one ring of trees is activated, it's fairly difficult to locate the portable you are using.

When multiple rings of trees are activated, you'll be damn lucky to find that portable.

Ring of trees are essentially as much of a menace as large familiars are. Since these familiars have been banned in many places, I'm certain the ring of trees can be coded with the same block functions.

As Draco pointed out, this is not the first time this has been brought to attention on these forums. This is also not the first time I've made it clear how these offer a negative experience to other players. Once again he writes a false narrative to suit his own agenda.

OP has my 100% support.


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The funny thing about this is, there is a dedicated portable world in Lumbridge and I never see trees, so yeah, maybe try that world out lol

27-Apr-2022 20:30:53

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