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PvPMatter
Apr Member 2023

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Let's all be aware, RuneScape has 100000000000% changed but yet they continue to go on advertising their game like it was 15 years ago. It's pretty funny *sad* how it's completely obvious that the options that players have to explore the game and try new things has greatly decreased.

Almost every single game I know other than RuneScape has INCREASED activity's in their games over the years..... this should be common sense with GROWTH as humans.

RuneScape in 2005 - PVM, PVP, COMMUNITY MINIGAME S , A FAIR CLUE SYSTEM, EVENTS, QUESTS, SKILLING, A WORKING FUNCTIONING PLAYER TO PLAYER TRADING SYSTEM *AND ALL OF THIS WAS DONE WITH MASS AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE*

RuneScape in 2022 - PVM, PVM, SKILLING, QUESTS, SOLO D&D'S, ALT 1 CLUES, PAY FOR TREASURE HUNTER, EVENTS, SOMETIMES RARELY BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A NON SUPPORTED MINIGAME? .... thats it?

But we continue on badgering each other...... Sometimes people putting negative input are trying to help, but eh I guess we're the bad people here.


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07-Aug-2022 18:38:48 - Last edited on 07-Aug-2022 18:53:31 by PvPMatter

Joel
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I've removed a number of posts from this thread and wanted to make a more general note to everyone that while posting your feedback about the game whether it be something good or bad is fine, attacking other players and hurling insults is not acceptable behaviour.

Let's have a little more respect for one another and actually discuss and disagree in a more respectful manner, that also applies to you,
Reaper Ghost
, as much as it does to anyone else who has replied here. Just bear in mind in the future that making potentially disrespectful remarks in your opening post doesn't set a good precedent for a thread, as is proof here.

Thanks!
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12-Aug-2022 16:33:04

Smasherley
Jul Member 2007

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You have trimmed and your prospect of the future is to sit in wildy killing people doing clues and achievements and you disagree that this is griefing?

I would understand if PVP was your thing and you are forced to change, but it's clearly not.

In any case wildy PVP does still exist in F2P and P2P for those that want it, however in your venomous post you make it clear you have no intention to PVP with ACTUAL PVPers

This game has changed for those that seek to kill people trying to do agility and runecrafting..

Which is Griefing.

Respectfully, I don't have respect for such people that thrive off other people's anguish and struggles and you are exactly why Jagex made the right decision here.

12-Aug-2022 23:39:44

Miagexy
Jan Member 2009

Miagexy

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A Great Update!!!
Millions of Kudos for a Wilderness that anyone can have a choice of what to do in an area so many players love from the beginning of time.
I can actually go there and do it all; well, if I got the levels for some activities that takes place in the most loving RS Wilderness.
I still remember when the Revenants use to roam around it. I have so much fun trying to hide from them, lol. I used to sneak via the underground passageway... well is close now... yep millions of years ago.
Having lots of fun at the Wilderness.
I can never thank you enough for all the hard work and timely thoughts you give each day to create so many amazing and beautiful updates to make us happy.
Bravo!!!

16-Aug-2022 19:22:24 - Last edited on 16-Aug-2022 19:23:54 by Miagexy

Reaper Ghost
Jul Member 2021

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I both agree and disagree with you on this one.

What I would have imagined being a better update is to make PVP in the wildy less punishing, but still be on all the time.

An implementation I would personally enjoy would be to have an access deposit to the wilderness, being your combat level times 10k. (cb 138 will be a 1380k deposit).

When you get killed by a player, you will be sent to Death where you can reclaim your items for the death-cost fee. (Maybe an inflated price?)

The killer will be rewarded with a token worth about your death-cost + your initial deposit. The killer can then redeem this reward at a npc (death?)


This is just an example which I would have loved to see in the game because you still have a guaranteed drop (deposit), AND players who have more valuables with them will greater reward you if you manage to take them out without discouraging players to come visit.

I 100% agree and have literally been proposing exactly that for ages.
In depth guide on what would of worked much better in link below
Wilderness Risk Reassessment

Unfortunately that is not what happened and I have quit. Death is not the opposite of life, but in fact a part of it.

May Guthix bring you balance.

18-Aug-2022 23:26:13 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2022 23:31:39 by Reaper Ghost

Qwis7
Aug Member 2010

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Its a awesome update in my opinion.

I hope they continue the making/meeting history quest once and show us the wilderness form before the god wars!

People that force other to make it harder should play just another game in my opinion.
Full PvP should be more rewarding, but make it on a island real 1vs1 fights with rewards and encourage ones!

19-Aug-2022 10:02:57

Vengeance of
Mar Member 2018

Vengeance of

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Tenebri said :
i think update was a success personally

Agreed. I've seen more people having fun in the Wilderness in the past few weeks than I did in the many years I prowled the old Wilderness combined . It's been a wild success, more than I would have dared to dream.

I've also still seen PKers running around doing their thing, having to work for most of their kills (obviously Cursed Energy and Warbands are still full of unarmed folks who are easy pickings for a prepared PKer) instead of trying to squeeze blood from unarmed skillers, clue hunters, or questers who aren't risking much of anything. Seems most PKers worth their salt have already adapted to the changes and are back to doing their thing.

In fact, I've been making a point to check out the Kill list whenever I've been in the area, and while the number of kills is, as can be expected, down due to a reduction in targets, it also looks like the good PKers are making much more per kill than they were before. Kills worth 8 or 9 digits seem to be a lot more common than they used to be, presumably because PKers are skulled by default now and very few people are wandering into PvP unarmed.

All in all, it's been fun to watch things unfold and it's probably one of the most successful updates of the year so far.

21-Aug-2022 06:43:08

Dkrypt
Dec Member 2015

Dkrypt

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Game is literally devolving into degeneracy. I had a convo with a friend who doesn't really do anything in game but hes a slight 'number-go-up' mental case. I asked him what his evaluation was between the self-destructive updates of 12/10/07 wildy free trade removal, then premature EoC nuking an overwhelming amount of the population, and coupled with the unofficial wildy removal "reborn" update essentially making no risk/incentive to pvp, and the conversation about death costs.

I basically reduced the convo to people in this game being carebears who like to waste time with 'content' and want no risk, and suggested they just remove death mechanic all together since it's clear nobody wants it in any way, shape or form. Of course I was being facetious, but even in his estimation he gave the game 5 years max, generously if they keep listening to carebears, redditors and just trying to appease for MTX.

Damn shame how this game came from booming wildy with few spots of pvm in classic and rs2, to nothing but softies who want everything handed to them while pointlessly going for their 3rd 200m in some boring skill on their fifth ironman, or chasing millisecond gains in some arbitrary pvm hiscore hitting the ceiling of average mmo combat.

Damn shame the population is so cringe these days, damn shame.

I've already quick and dirtied a simple suggestion to wildy and pvp to make it better here: 185-186-794-66259525

26-Aug-2022 01:21:33

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