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Hupw
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@Whatusaytome
"If Jagex catered to the players, they might have a larger player base!"

they have already decided on what players they want to cater to and its why the player base is declining. why get 5$ a month from 20 people with the content you are creating when you can milk the same player over and over again for 100$ while not actually producing any content in the process? H̸̛͘͠Į̸̛͜͜

02-May-2019 18:13:51

Sharp-shin

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Hupw said :
@Blackwing
#1
I'm not a throw the baby out with the bathwater kind of person. instead of trying to bankrupt the company over a change i would like enacted i think the result can be achieved without stooping to the mindset of a child throwing a tantrum, and instead just asking for what i want and providing reasons for it.
Like I said, I don't like doing it either, but in Jagex's case, it's the only way to get things done if what you want doesn't generate more revenue than not doing it, because Jagex isn't reasonable: they only care about money and infinite financial growth now. If they cared about your satisfaction first and your money second, they wouldn't have even created the drakes in the first place, since they were born from MTX.


Hupw said :
#2
the bleed was unclearable, so when the fight ends and it clears all the bleeds and heals you, it couldn't clear the bleed that was specifically designed to not be cleared. this took months for a work around to be implemented because of this.
This still sounds to me like a bug - how could you clear all the bleeds but also not clear all the bleeds at the same time, and think it's intentional? Sounds to me like a paradox as a result of a bug. :P
"Volat Accipiter libera est; venandi sua natura est."
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02-May-2019 18:14:36

Sharp-shin

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Hupw said :
#3
I'm guessing you don't do much combat then? I can give an example from my own personal experience. i have a friend i was trying to help get a perfect chitin for his t90 defender a while back. he insisted on using his legendary pet for the ring of life effect. every time i tried to heal him when i provoked for the green attack his stupid dragon would wind up getting in the way of my heal other and i would misclick it, once this even caused me to walk under KK when i tried to heal other a second time, which made my reso timer run out, which i don't remember if it signed me or killed me, but that isn't relevant.
I do lots of PvM, just not with a group because I prefer soloing. Funny thing though, I said the only place I could imagine was endgame group bossing... and you followed up with an endgame group boss! > )

Anyway, if he insisted to have the pet just because it was a legendary pet, not only could you have insisted back (e.g. to use an actual ring of life), but the pet didn't need to be in its adult form. So all of what you just said comes across to me as you letting yourself to be killed, instead of getting yourself killed. And now I also see why people don't complain about that: you can find someone else to group boss with if the person you currently have does something you don't like.


Hupw said :
but really, the only reason someone would actually be against this change is because they like to purposely annoy people with the pet.
Nope, like said before, unnecessary toggles clutter up the settings to make them a bigger mess to use, they make QA harder because there are more combinations of settings to go through, as some bugs only happen with certain conditions, the fact that this wouldn't stop trolling because trolls always find more ways to troll, so you'd be better off banning them etc.
"Volat Accipiter libera est; venandi sua natura est."
~Accipiter striatus

02-May-2019 18:14:47

Hupw
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Hupw

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@Blackwing

"Like I said, I don't like doing it either, but in Jagex's case, it's the only way to get things done if what you want doesn't generate more revenue than not doing it, because Jagex isn't reasonable"

I largely agree with this sentiment. for anything larger than an toggle option the only thing that speaks is money to the capitalist overlords running jagex. (hi jagex, are you enjoying them running your game into the ground?) but, in this case i think it can be achieved with some forums complaining. they removed the treasure hunter button from my inventory when i complained about it, this seems like small enough change that they might do it if they did that.

"This still sounds to me like a bug - how could you clear all the bleeds but also not clear all the bleeds at the same time"

this isn't a contradiction. mutated barge bleeds cant be cleared through any means, they even persist as debuff icons on killed enemies. not being cleared at the end of the duel is just how the ability works, they were specifically designed this way.

"endgame group bossing"

c'mon man. KK isnt an endgame boss. but yeah, group bossing is where having a giant dragon taking up your screen becomes a pretty big problem, which is why i specifically mentioned all group bosses when replying to malfoy earlier in the thread


"So all of what you just said comes across to me as you letting yourself to be killed"

lol? is this a joke? would you like to fill me in on what series of actions you would have definitely taken in the less than 600 milliseconds you would have had to course correct?


"you can find someone else to group boss with if the person you currently have does something you don't like."

wow. really? you would tell your friend who you are trying to help get a great item to piss off for doing something annoying? i just took a bit extra out of the drygore drops for ring of death charges and made him deal with the consequences of my missed heals, but i guess that's just me. H̸̛͘͠Į̸̛͜͜

02-May-2019 18:49:54

Trewavas
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According to Mod Shogun's Twitter page, from the next update, you won't be able to see other people's pets in the Combat Academy: https://twitter.com/JagexShogun/status/1123982338503868416

02-May-2019 18:55:15 - Last edited on 02-May-2019 18:55:36 by Trewavas

Hupw
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Hupw

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@Blackwing


"Nope, like said before, unnecessary toggles clutter up the settings to make them a bigger mess to use, they make QA harder because there are more combinations of settings to go through, as some bugs only happen with certain conditions, the fact that this wouldn't stop trolling because trolls always find more ways to troll, so you'd be better off banning them etc."

banning people for being annoying is a severe overreach of banning power i wouldn't want anyone to engage in. i also wouldn't want people banned for being obnoxious in general.

what QA? if there is any QA done on runescape it consists of 30 seconds of someone going "looks good" you and i are the QA team. even if there was QA, i would be fine with it taking 2.4 seconds longer for someone to pretend to flip some settings. H̸̛͘͠Į̸̛͜͜

02-May-2019 19:04:08 - Last edited on 02-May-2019 19:04:33 by Hupw

Sharp-shin

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Trewavas said :
According to Mod Shogun's Twitter page, from the next update, you won't be able to see other people's pets in the Combat Academy: https://twitter.com/JagexShogun/status/1123982338503868416
Well, once again goes to show that Jagex never learns how to truly get rid of the trolls. They're still gonna find more ways to troll people, and the innocents are still gonna pay for it. :P

Though they did understand not to make it a toggle, so that's a plus!
"Volat Accipiter libera est; venandi sua natura est."
~Accipiter striatus

02-May-2019 19:04:55

Whatusaytome
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There's already unnecessary toggles that can easily be replaced by one with a game-enhancing purpose.

Also, if the settings are such a mess, suggest a fix. Stop complaining that suggestions dont happen, like the forums are useless.

Also, a fix for an obnoxiously trolling method is better off done by banning the players?? Yeah, I doubt that.
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