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Draco Burnz
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Whatusaytome said :


Yes but after those changes hopefully jagex have learned that not everything should be that way just because a small handful choose to complain about something.

I mean ive been complaining about seeing other ppl on my screen for a while now, wheres my toggle?
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25-Apr-2019 00:34:56

Whatusaytome
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The change to the achievement banner, as well as the clan avatar, as well as this.. were all highly requested with few reasons to disagree that weren't personal.

You and me are the only ones so far, as far as I know, to support hiding players from view. So obviously until we get more support on that, it's just not likely.

This has plenty of actual support and very many reasons that benefit a lot of people, while being entirely optional for everybody, without affecting anybody but the user. This is far more plausible to happen than us being able to hide other players.

Besides, I can interact with other players and gain from them, with trading and combat. I can't do anything with your pet and I can never gain from one unless I own one. Hiding players is not nearly as likely to happen as hiding pets.
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25-Apr-2019 01:15:00

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Dr Goldfire said :
With above-current-average HW and the fact that I am an ISP, this is probably not the case.

Such an ambiguous response you gave: in actual detail, what is your setup? You could easily be exaggerating how powerful your setup is, and stating that you're an ISP doesn't mean that the internet you provide isn't lackluster.

Hell, for all we know, your "above-current-average HW" could refer only to the area you're living in, where the average might be below-current-average compared to the rest of the world.


Dr Goldfire said :
On the other side, there are players, I would say a majority of players, who are paying to Jagex as well. I personally pay with bonds, which does not provide them less money as if I paid directly (as they still enter the game via other players, which buy them for real money). Plus I consume much more bonds since I use them to buy xp during promotions (lamps, stars, proteans, etc).

The majority of players pay for membership, so you're right in that they pay to Jagex as well, but there aren't that many players who truly mind the drakes, seemingly yourself included. Because it's one thing to act like it's this huge issue, and another to still keep paying Jagex tons of money on MTX promotions as well as membership, and to still keep playing the game: in Jagex's eyes, you're contradicting with your actions what you're saying with your words. At least, that's how the "money talks" concept that Jagex's fond of works anyway. :P
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25-Apr-2019 04:29:57

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Goldfire - For the record, in the US Federal Law does trump company EULA and ToS agreements. Regardless of what is put into one. I would lookup consumer protection & supremacy laws, specifically the 2015 update variant, as well as laws that state federal law trumps contractual agreement (such as the Supremacy Clause). We do in fact "own (license)" our digital purchases to a limited extent, and those protections Do, in point of fact, guarantee us right to refund if product is altered post-purchase for any reason, digital purchase or no, as that would leave it susceptible to laws under false advertisement, false trade, etc etc etc. And this isn't just for Drakes, or even Runescape, but all things Digital, and even non-digital. We may not have redistribution rights, but we do as a point of fact, have a measure of protection and rights at time of purchase. This isn't really the forum for a discussion on trade law however, so I'l leave that point at that.


That note aside and going back to the Drakes & Cosmetics, I fail to see how anything else you listed goes against anything I posted. I'm not really interested in your specific level of hardware.

My point is simply that as players, we don't know what the hardware of any other player just so happens to be, and so speaking shouldn't be our concern whether or not their particular level of hardware can handle some extra pixels in the form of a legally used pet one can again, legally refuse to put away. I'm not making a point to bash peoples hardware should it be inferior, I'm making a point that it's not my, nor anyone else's concern that some players may lag, and that that's their own issue to sort through by their own means.

Again, harsh, but fair and logical.

Again, a Very Strong No Support. Players should be forced to view - there's no point in a purchasing a cosmetic to show off if you can't be guaranteed people are viewing.

25-Apr-2019 06:55:13 - Last edited on 25-Apr-2019 07:12:26 by Sigmarthus

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I will continue to use my hard earned Drake That I payed real money for, to support the developers - regardless of how others around me feel of it, knowing that by doing so I'm breaking no rules.

I'm firmly and extremely against any limitation in regards to both this, and any other solomons cosmetic.

Players aren't liable for other players lagging hardware, we aren't responsible for their circumstances, but they should still be forced to view because it's why we bought them in the first place and any alteration opens right to refund (in US territories).

Again, I don't bear anybody any ill-will, I just do my own thing and want that respected - I wouldn't ask you to take down your Drake, you shouldn't ask me to take down mine.

25-Apr-2019 07:03:54 - Last edited on 25-Apr-2019 07:10:13 by Sigmarthus

Dr Goldfire
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Sharp-shin said :

I wouldn't like to advertise any brands, but just letting you know, that the HW can easily maintain ultra details, should be enough. At the end, I never told that any of those cosmetic pets, neither anything else would cause me lags. Only time I lag on the world 2 is during BXP weekends, regardless the place, yet that will most likely be a problem on the server side.

As I said few months ago, a poll would sort out, whether or not players support my original idea. Jagex could even ask how strongly are players concerned about particular groups of pets.
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25-Apr-2019 08:46:56 - Last edited on 25-Apr-2019 09:42:49 by Dr Goldfire

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Sigmarthus said :

Alright, considering that Jagex is UK based company (services that you pay for are provided, billed and taxed there as well), as well as the fact that US laws apply on the US grounds only, what particular measures would there be should they alter their property (according to Terms & Conditions which you agreed with upon your creation of account)?

Regardless the laws, I strongly doubt you would get any refund even if you submitted it on a US court. Probably nobody sound of mind would accept that a situation when other players block visibility of your cosmetic pet is truly an alteration. On the top of that, I believe that trial expenses would be far higher than the cost of cosmetic drake, therefore I don't think you would like to risk additional money as it would be way too uncertain whether or not you could even succeed. ;)
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25-Apr-2019 08:57:42 - Last edited on 25-Apr-2019 18:37:20 by Dr Goldfire

Ms Cole
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Support.

This is one of the reasons people don't want a reduction in worlds... Having a togglable option would be ideal for quite a few players. :)
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27-Apr-2019 04:26:57 - Last edited on 27-Apr-2019 05:46:11 by Ms Cole

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