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13-Aug-2019 09:42:42

Xavathos
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Whatusaytome said :
Your opinion seems to be that of a Jagex Fanboy, who only approves of something once Jagex does. Because whether or not you agree that this is a fix, you won't support it unless Jagex does it. And being conservative like that is a great way to get nothing done.

The only subjective part of this discussion is discussing pros vs cons, which like I said earlier, the only cons come from people who want a dollar to matter more than laggy players. Minimum settings arent perfect either, depending on the user's CPU they very well may still lagg, which can be further prevented by updates like this. But that wont happen with people who refuse everything for personal reasons.

Let me make this clear: I'm not a Jagex fanboy and I don't enjoy being labelled, thank you. I've openly criticised many choices Jagex made in the past that I still do not agree with today, but they ARE the developer of the game and if they make a choice, I'll just deal with it and move on, be that by continuing playing, or finding something else to spend my time on. What I said has been heard and the choice was made despite it, that's how things go in life sometimes.

The "only subjective part" that you talk about here is still a valid reason to be against this suggestion, one of many, I'm sure. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean you can just brush it off as it it doesn't exist. You keep doing that though, while expecting others to somehow agree with you. I don't understand how you think that will ever work to convince someone, but you're welcome to keep trying of course.

Dr Goldfire said :
...to defend players who are being trolled by notorious trolls, which consistently derail constructive discussions by provocative tone of speech, far not only in this topic. Please, take a closer look at poster from which I defended others against.

I wonder who it was, because I missed that post. Be the change you would like to see in the world.

13-Aug-2019 15:29:33

Whatusaytome
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Naturally I will, because under no circumstances should such a small payment by 1 player, matter more than the gameplay of the people around him. It's a one time payment for a pet with abilities, and regardless if other people cannot see it, that person gets their money's worth.

I will never, ever agree that such a small, miniscule one time payment should matter more than the negative consequences of that payment. Anybody who thinks it should matter more is a selfish and entitled brat.

We cannot expect people to always be as nice as you. Most often, people who have their pets out are using them, so asking them to put it away is rude. And if they are using it, they won't put it away for me.

I shouldn't be forced to relocate myself because of these negative consequences either. I didn't buy the pet, so I have to move? No. There is an option to take away all negative consequences, but people like you just have to have some reason to hate it.
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13-Aug-2019 15:46:51

Xavathos
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Whatusaytome said :
Naturally I will, because under no circumstances should such a small payment by 1 player, matter more than the gameplay of the people around him. It's a one time payment for a pet with abilities, and regardless if other people cannot see it, that person gets their money's worth.

I will never, ever agree that such a small, miniscule one time payment should matter more than the negative consequences of that payment. Anybody who thinks it should matter more is a selfish and entitled brat.

We cannot expect people to always be as nice as you. Most often, people who have their pets out are using them, so asking them to put it away is rude. And if they are using it, they won't put it away for me.

I shouldn't be forced to relocate myself because of these negative consequences either. I didn't buy the pet, so I have to move? No. There is an option to take away all negative consequences, but people like you just have to have some reason to hate it.

Hmm, okay. So you're not comfortable asking people to please put their drake away that's blocking the entire screen, because that's rude, but you are totally fine removing other people's pets from the screen all together yourself without asking them? And you don't see the problem with that?

Save you a post: Yeah, they don't know that you deleted their pets, so that justifies it for you somehow, you've said that before. I'll ask again, you don't see the problem with that? Be the change you would like to see in the world.

13-Aug-2019 16:07:21

Whatusaytome
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Absolutely not. They wouldn't be able to tell any difference at all for themselves. They can use their pet even with my settings off. It just wont appear in my screen.

I see absolutely no problem with that. If for some reason it is a problem, why cant they ask me to look? In which case, if I'm nice enough, then I can optionally see it.

My main point is that regardless if I ask them to put it away now, either they aren't using it, and they will put it away for my sake, and then they lose out on using it. But if they dont, then I'm absolutely forced to move, world hop, or tolerate the lagg. And that's unfair to me.

You dont see the problem with that?
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13-Aug-2019 18:21:10

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I don't wanna make you out to be any kind of bad guy, you seem reasonable and understanding, and you are that one guy nice enough to put his pet away when asked. But I don't think this game is Drakescape to where any Legendary Pet owner matters more than laggy players.

I have a skypouncer myself and I would like to say I'd be like you, I only used my pet for abilities and a little fun with friends, but never did I intend to cause other people lagg with my pet, and I want the option in game to prevent lagg in case it ever does. Y'know?
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13-Aug-2019 18:26:28

Xavathos
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Whatusaytome said :
I don't wanna make you out to be any kind of bad guy, you seem reasonable and understanding, and you are that one guy nice enough to put his pet away when asked. But I don't think this game is Drakescape to where any Legendary Pet owner matters more than laggy players.

I have a skypouncer myself and I would like to say I'd be like you, I only used my pet for abilities and a little fun with friends, but never did I intend to cause other people lagg with my pet, and I want the option in game to prevent lagg in case it ever does. Y'know?

I'm not feeling like you're making me out to be a bad guy, but I just don't understand why you can understand that pets are a bad thing for you, but you can't grasp that your lag for others would be annoying them. That's a very simplistic way to phrase a more complex problem, but it is essentially what you're doing.

I'm not saying drakes aren't annoying, hell, I think they're annoying and I own them both, I completely understand that, but you're also using lag as an argument.

If you lag in a game, it means your PC, phone or whatever you play on isn't capable of handling the game at the current quality settings that you are playing on and you're putting the "bill" to pay for that lack of system specifications on other players and their pets. With all due respect, that's YOUR problem, mate, not ours.

What's next? Our FashionScape outfits with glowing wings? Our aura effects? Where does it stop being our bill to pay for your game play experience and it starts being your responsibility?

Again, not saying that I wouldn't be willing to help you out and make your game smoother for you if I could with something as simply as turning off a pet, but I fear that if we give in to this now, where does it end? What's next? This is what I meant with "crossing a line". Objectively speaking, it isn't fair your way either. Be the change you would like to see in the world.

13-Aug-2019 22:19:16 - Last edited on 13-Aug-2019 22:22:08 by Xavathos

Whatusaytome
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Those other things you mention dont appear all super shiny and elegant under minimum settings, because there are settings for them like what we ask for this.

I use the lag as an argument because whether or not my PC lags because it's not super new or teched out for runescape, I'm not the only one in this thread who says they lag. I know theres 45 pages but the most of those pages have people supporting specifically because of lag. Or because they see them as oversized screen cluttering annoyances.

It goes right back to the dollar mattering more than players argument. If the game was only meant to be enjoyed with full Ultra detail on at all times, most current players would be far too laggy to enjoy the game at all, and would likely quit. Allowing lower settings means more players can play comfortably. Expecting high end gear from everybody is less realistic than Jagex applying a new setting.

Graphical settings exist to remove shadows, hide chat, ignore players, lower lighting detail, bloom, water detail, draw distance. Theres even a Legacy Client for people whose computers can't even manage NXT. All to benefit the players who would lag if they had settings any higher. And no player can tell how we have any of those set.

This is exactly the same thing, and I know the thread is named specifically for Drakes, but I would assume it would be applied to all Companion, Follower, Skill, Boss, and Legendary pets. If even as separate options for each. In case I like skill pets and seeing people's xp, but hate drakes, or vice versa. But I'll let Jagex and OP agree or disagree with that, should this happen at all.

As for what's crossing the line, I can't say. In my opinion, the more personalization and graphical settings the better.

But what's not fair about this way, when the combat academy being forced to hiding pets is fair?
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13-Aug-2019 23:34:34

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