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Dr Goldfire said :
Sharp-shin said :
Dr Goldfire said :
Also consider the weigh of the arguments: lust for showing off vs delivering unpleasant experience to others

Adding another option to a mess of options would do just that: deliver an unpleasant experience to others. The amount of toggles and other unnecessary options is already too high, and making it worse would be, well, even worse, surprisingly. Not to mention that because some pets are purchased with real money, people have already bought them under the premise that everyone will see them.


That's just your opinion. I think benefits would greatly outweigh possible cons.

Naturally you'd think that, but given your lack of arguments to support it, it's quite clear that you're thinking like that out of personal bias to wanting it, rather than having considered the bigger picture.
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01-Nov-2018 11:10:46

Dr Goldfire
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Sharp-shin said :
Dr Goldfire said :
Sharp-shin said :
Dr Goldfire said :
Also consider the weigh of the arguments: lust for showing off vs delivering unpleasant experience to others

Adding another option to a mess of options would do just that: deliver an unpleasant experience to others. The amount of toggles and other unnecessary options is already too high, and making it worse would be, well, even worse, surprisingly. Not to mention that because some pets are purchased with real money, people have already bought them under the premise that everyone will see them.


That's just your opinion. I think benefits would greatly outweigh possible cons.

Naturally you'd think that, but given your lack of arguments to support it, it's quite clear that you're thinking like that out of personal bias to wanting it, rather than having considered the bigger picture.


I suppose that the arguments given above are sufficient to comprehend. Believe or not, should Jagex ask it in some kind of poll more than 75% players would support this idea. Drakes are just annoying to majority.
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01-Nov-2018 13:25:56

Sharp-shin

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Dr Goldfire said :
Sharp-shin said :
Dr Goldfire said :
Sharp-shin said :
Dr Goldfire said :
Also consider the weigh of the arguments: lust for showing off vs delivering unpleasant experience to others

Adding another option to a mess of options would do just that: deliver an unpleasant experience to others. The amount of toggles and other unnecessary options is already too high, and making it worse would be, well, even worse, surprisingly. Not to mention that because some pets are purchased with real money, people have already bought them under the premise that everyone will see them.


That's just your opinion. I think benefits would greatly outweigh possible cons.

Naturally you'd think that, but given your lack of arguments to support it, it's quite clear that you're thinking like that out of personal bias to wanting it, rather than having considered the bigger picture.


I suppose that the arguments given above are sufficient to comprehend. Believe or not, should Jagex ask it in some kind of poll more than 75% players would support this idea. Drakes are just annoying to majority.

What do you base this claim on? I very much doubt you have a big enough sample size to believe that it'd pass without question, so yeah, not going to believe you.

Besides, even if you were right, game integrity is something that ignores popularity when considered. When adding something like this to the game, first you should consider whether it's good for the game, and only then how wanted it is. As explained, it'd clutter the options menu to be even worse, and some players' buying decision on the pets was influenced by the fact that they knew everyone would see them. Intolerance isn't really good enough of a reason to change that IMO.
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01-Nov-2018 13:53:42

Dr Goldfire
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When there are polls in OSRS, vast majority of questions dealing with additional options end up at 80% or above. If Jagex gives players a possibility "to toggle something" (or to be able to choose as they play) there is literally no reason to refuse it or if so, it is mostly only negligible.

Also, from other side of view, disagreement to dismiss drakes if they are disturbing may be viewed as intolerance.
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01-Nov-2018 20:14:50 - Last edited on 01-Nov-2018 20:19:21 by Dr Goldfire

Sharp-shin

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Dr Goldfire said :
When there are polls in OSRS, vast majority of questions dealing with additional options end up at 80% or above. If Jagex gives players a possibility "to toggle something" (or to be able to choose as they play) there is literally no reason to refuse it or if so, it is mostly only negligible.

Examples would be appreciated, although mind you that toggles that actually affect gameplay aren't the same as toggles that are "cosmetic" (visual), the latter being the toggle you're after here.

If we started adding everything people want under the premise that "well you can just toggle it", things would get ridiculous very quickly; someone could request a toggle to display dyes because they don't like rich people showing their wealth, another to toggle displaying all other players because they want to live inside their bubble alone, third to toggle helmets because they don't like how everyone looks the same wearing slayer helm (that one is for OSRS but just to demonstrate the point). Before we know it, the options menu would become even bigger of a maze, trying to find the one option you want in a sea of toggles and other unnecessary options.

Toggles should only be done when truly necessary, but as explained earlier, if you don't like being in the company of pets, you can hop worlds, or switch location if what you're doing isn't restricted to just one area, thereby negating the need of a toggle, saving the space for toggles that are actually important to have.


Dr Goldfire said :
Also, from other side of view, disagreement to dismiss drakes if they are disturbing may be viewed as intolerance.

Intolerance and disagreement are two different things; if I disagree with you and want your opinion censored/changed by force, that's intolerance. On the other hand, if I disagree with you and leave it at that, I'm still tolerating your opinion, even though I disagree with it.
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01-Nov-2018 20:55:03

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If you bought your pet for me, I'd like the option to say I don't want it. Thanks but you wasted your money if you only bought a drake to show me.

Why aren't you satisfied with the people who won't hide them? Why must you force everybody?

01-Nov-2018 22:02:38

Jack Flac
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Just create a no cosmetic world. All legendary pets would be disabled here as well.

There. Problem solved. And without intricate toggle systems which only complicate the codebase.
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02-Nov-2018 03:44:16 - Last edited on 02-Nov-2018 03:45:57 by Jack Flac

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