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Eno Remnant

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Sir Duncan88 said :
((EDIT- In my last post I described the invisible force which stopped the bullets having continued afterwards. Ignore that, They were erased from existence when the bullet hit them. They basically acted as a substitute for the prisoner, and even if they didn't take the bullets down with them, the blast of air from them should have been powerful enough to stop most magically or technologically enhanced bullets, or at least divert their path enough for the target to escape or find some way of countering.))

There are so many things wrong with that, not the least of which being that the bullets have AI to detect potential obstacles and impediments to their progress (via something that's difficult to explain here, but what it really means is that the universe tells the bullet what's in its way) and then phase into another dimension to avoid it.

But I was looking for a fight anyway, so I don't awfully care.

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Agent Light arrives in Hammerspace in the same instant the round was diverted. He doesn't awfully care that the shot was thwarted. It was less an assassination attempt, and more of a pre-assassination formality. Like a handshake before a meeting. And he was a real business shark.

The rifle vanished as it left his hands, replaced by his revolvers. Hammerspace portals opened and closed, and bullets didn't so much fly as they appeared with little more than an atom of space between themselves and their target. Even if those bullets could be prevented from reaching their target--which was actually markedly easier than affecting that sniper round--the effects of the Micro Oblivions' destabilising impulses would still impact on their target, degrading the prisoner's existence until he was nothing but memories.

Normal assassins had targets. Wetboys had deaders. Because an assassin can miss, but death is inevitable once a wetboy comes after you with deadly intent.

14-Feb-2015 21:43:22

Ashlin107

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Well I guess leave all that drama back to those other pages. Now I have a bit of story stuff to go through so feel free to skim through to the good stuff if you want. So I may as well do the next post(s) from Arkin (aka the prisoner)'s perspective.
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The weapon suddenly falls apart in my hands. Due to a miscalculation with this so called paradox? No the black sun council don't make these kinds of mistakes. I then turn to see a big man who has so much cybernetics he makes even a technomancer look pure in comparison. In fact if it wasn't for his one exposed eye you could be forgiven for thinking he was a robot.

I know him as Inspector #13. I also notice a field is around us. So as far as everyone else is concerned I'm still sitting there in disbelief as my weapon is broken. I notice the inspector's arm canon still has smoke coming off it. It all becomes clear to me.

"Why did you do that? I had her! Now she's gone thanks to you."

I snap but the inspector turn to me.

"Please with that dodgy weapon we gave you. You would have had only 3.567% chance of doing any real damage to her. You'll have another chance at her Arkin."

"So why are you here?"

"To deliver the real intel and some intel on our new... 'guest' which we intercepted from the Shadow guild and the Twin god empire."

The inspector then hands me two tablets with the intel. The one on the Shadowforger which has more information than the other intel I had (and happens to look like her wiki page). The other contains the intel which was taken from the Shadow guild (and is exactly like the one Yuriel had.).

"Interesting looks like Duncan is right to be concerned."

"Indeed also it would appear they have taken our bait."

"What are talking about?"

"We purposely gave you false intel with just enough information to concern. To lure any spies and they've now put a hit on you. So be ready."

"Very well."

The inspector then disappears. The statement below is false.
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15-Feb-2015 03:36:23

Ashlin107

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I then put on the rest of my gear including my overcoat and my sunglasses. I then notice Ash who has deactivated his hyper mode. But he looks to be feeling the effects of it.

"I have a proposition for you. How would you like to join my team to take down the destroyer?"

He has just given me a very tempting offer one S class bounty for another.

"Very well I accept. But I suspect our business here is far from over."

I then get a strange feeling. Almost as if someone is about to sneak up and stab me or in this case shoot me while I have my head turned. I jump back and draw a pair of handcannons. I fire one shot at the AI controlled bullet thus destroying it before it can do any damage.

I then point the other at this so called agent of light before he can teleport away I appear right in front of him and kick him in the gut. His AI could almost swear I was shot out of my own gun.

"So your the one who they sent after me." I say he then responds. "This is just buisness nothing personal." I then point my gun at his feet. "So's this." I fire a explosive shot which he manages to dodge by teleporting away. Although this shot was more of a way of saying challenge accepted.

I then start tracing any evidence of this agent of light's preferred method of teleporting. I then notice a bunch of portals open around me. Of course this isn't the first portal jumper I've come across and certainly wont be the last.

Before this little bullet storm can start I roll up my sleeve and reveal a bracer which has an emblem of a black sun on it. I press the symbol and the whole world becomes dark and slightly blurry. Time has also seemingly slowed down.

When the bullets seemingly his they do nothing. Because they can't hit something that isn't actually there. I then step away and see the decoy left behind getting torn apart fooling even the AI in the bullets. I have now entered the dimension of the black sun. The statement below is false.
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15-Feb-2015 03:36:34 - Last edited on 15-Feb-2015 04:06:45 by Ashlin107

Ashlin107

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Even if the bullets found a way in here they'd be destroyed due to an effect which we call the 'curse of the black sun'. Some say this is the destroyer's dimension and he destroys anything that trespasses into his realm. Others fear that some darker force rests in here. Either way I'm only able to enter here because of my black sun bracer.

The dimension of the black sun is essentially where we hunters perform our executions and listen to our victim's last words. Because after all there is a saying "one must always listen to a dying person. Because they can not lie." I'm not sure if I believe that but it's always interesting know what one's dying thoughts are.

I look at my bracer and notice it's gauge is getting lower and lower still. So I must make my way through one of the portals to hammerspace. Bypassing any safety measures that have been put in place. I then emerge from the dimension of the black sun right behind the agent of light.

I then fire two corrosive shots into his back. Covering his back in acid which slowly works its way passed his clothing, armour and anything else that is before his skin.

"You might want to go change."

I remark as the agent of light turns to face me. I know assassins. They prefer it that their presence isn't know till it's too late. Unlike us hunters who actually prefer that our presence is known. Ever still we both like to cover our tracks thus leaving a layer of mystery between me and this assassin.

(Well now thats done. If you want to skip the story stuff I suggest you start reading half way through the second post.)

(Also yes I know you said the agent of light would enter hammerspace as soon as the bullet missed Eno. But I couldn't resist the opportunity to do that brief exchange before the jump. Plus it doesn't affect anything we've done except add a little flavour to the story. :P )

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15-Feb-2015 04:08:57 - Last edited on 15-Feb-2015 04:29:03 by Ashlin107

Eno Remnant

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Ashlin107 said :
(Anything I missed?)

Only your senses.

Allow me to explain where exactly you went wrong, in terms as simple as I can possibly put it.

1) Duncan already countered the bullet.

2) I already specifically raised the fact that an attempt to stop the bullet like that would cause it to phase out of reality as a form of dodging.

3) Jumping back a little before I forget, there is no intel on the TGE. There is no intel like what the TGE has. They are an empire in a universe that only the veterans here (the real, 2-4 year veterans) even know about OOC, let alone IC. They have technology so advanced that stealing their intel is literally impossible to anyone short of a technomancer, for so many reasons that I'm not even going to start on. And trust me, you don't have any characters or NPC* who can match a technomancer under any circumstances in their own field of expertise. It just isn't done.

4) There's no outpacing the AI. You and yours are still flesh and blood, and no amount of magical augmentation will make up for the fact that brains need time to process. This AI doesn't even need to process, it just does.

5) While I'm at it, I'm insulted that you think you could manage a kick to the gut of Agent Light. I have yet to explicitly state the nature of his armour, but I did earlier specify a forcefield protecting him.

6) Those portals are made with technology that patches the reality-warping holes it makes afterwards. Only Magery (the master of all magic), a technomancer (the master of all tech) or Master 1 (the resident portal expert) could even find the subtle signs of portal activity.

7) "Because they can't hit something that isn't actually there. I then step away and see the decoy left behind getting torn apart fooling even the AI in the bullets." These bullets detect you via a time signature. Something that can't be faked. No decoy is going to fool a DarkMind AI.

Still ranting...

15-Feb-2015 04:49:40

Eno Remnant

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8) "Bypassing any safety measures that have been put in place. I then emerge from the dimension of the black sun right behind the agent of light." No. Just no. There are no safety measures. It's an empty dimension that was built in an instant. What happens is that the AI detects anything else on this plane by methods more advanced than the DarkMind AI, which gives Yuriel ample time to avoid his opponent. Which isn't even an issue, since the moment he began that bullet storm he engaged a randomised, high-speed dimension shuffle to prevent being locked down. Which I was going to address when he was attacked, but seems to need to be said now.

9) "I then fire two corrosive shots into his back. Covering his back in acid which slowly works its way passed his clothing, armour and anything else that is before his skin." His coat is literally impermeable. There are certain weapons that could harm it, high-tech/magic certainly, but even when faced with those it can mend itself instantly. Acid sure as Hells isn't affecting it. As for the assumption it can bypass his armour, that armour is more technologically advanced than you can conceive of. It's taken hits from ELE (extinction level event) weapons and come out unscathed. Again, high-tech/magic is needed to breach it, which acid is not.

That's all I have to say for now, but I'm sure there are others who have plenty to say about the subject.

I consider those posts void as nothing in them could feasibly happen. Except maybe protecting yourself from the bullets.

15-Feb-2015 04:56:52

Enheduanna
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Now, Eno's made a lot of claims there about the technology level of various things, without actually describing how they work, hasn't he?

Which is where I come in.

Allow me to direct you all to the relevant posts for the claims Eno has made.

3. The technology the Twin God's Empire uses to protect its secrets can be found on page 199, post 2 of the following thread: 55-56-946-64191585. Of further interest is how the Quantum Fortress units themselves are protected against outside interference, the details of which can be found on the Nation Creation Wiki's Tech Database page, under Forum Lord (specifically the Aegis entry); evidence that the TGE possesses these can be found on page 111, post 1 of the thread previously linked.

4. While Eno's not exactly accurate (an AI still takes time to think), it thinks at the speed of light, and, considering all TGE AIs are based on a quantum computing system (which means it can perform multiple operations at the same time), it is literally impossible for anyone to think or act faster than an AI can; even if you're cybernetically enhanced, that just makes you more like an AI .

You will note, on the aforementioned post found on page 111, that it lists an "Observer" sub-project, and then describes all the sensors and detection instruments found within - that is out of date by over a thousand years compared to the TGE Yuriel is coming from, so the array the Darkmind AIs are using is even more advanced .

I should clarify that Time Sensors function by triangulating an object's position in time, relative to its timeline and the timeline of every single thing it has ever interacted with (done via AI, obviously), and then mapping them on to the space-time continuum. Hiding from one is not possible unless you don't actually exist with respect to time - and if you're timelocked, well, it's pretty easy to find you by looking for the big blank space where time should be but isn't.

15-Feb-2015 05:17:14 - Last edited on 15-Feb-2015 05:25:44 by Enheduanna

Enheduanna
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9. I direct you back to the Nation Creation Wiki's Tech Database, and specifically the information about the Hyperion Warsuit. Alternatively, you could also read about it (and further information regarding the UBER power system and other technology) on the previously-linked thread, 55-56-946-64191585, from page 196, post 10 and onward.

That armour is anywhere between five hundred to seven hundred years behind the technology level of what Yuriel is wearing.

(Projects Loki, Trickster, Alar, and so on, are all described over the following three or four pages, if you flick through them to find my posts)

Anyway!

I'd best get back to teaching myself how to draw, and then maybe I'll post up Natasha's return and what the Night Lily does to her.

15-Feb-2015 05:24:29 - Last edited on 15-Feb-2015 05:26:23 by Enheduanna

Ashlin107

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Ohh great another "I'm superior to you in every way." post. Ok then looks like I won't be avoiding drama. Time like this make me realise why so many people come and gone from this thread.

1&2) Well point noted.

3) Ohh I forgot to put the little bit about the spies. My bad. No really I did intend to put a bit but I forgot. Also I believe you missed the bit where Arkin spoke to a guy litterally made of technology.

Plus you technically don't need intel to be aware of an organisation as there is no intel on the black sun council since they are a multiversal secret organisation. Seriously though we can go back and forth all day and never prove who's organisation is better. Ohh and there are the inspectors who essentially thrive off collecting information undetected. Also this obviously took place in a different forum game or it was before I came on. Because I've been here for 3 years now. (time sure flies.)

4) Ok I clearly didn't make this obvious enough. Arkin has preflex react to dangerous situations before they happen. Kind of like a spider-sense if you will if your into the whole spiderman thing.

5) Clearly you missed the point of that. The point was more to show Arkin was aware of Yuriel and not do any damage.

6) Ok back to no three. There are guy that are both made of technology. Also the black sun are constantly inventing new technology incase you haven't figured that out from some of my posts.

7) Actually he can copy his time signature. Because in a sense he didn't even exist in that dimension at the time. Like I said he's in a dimension outside space and time.

8) Well those sound awfully like safety measures to me. Plus again the AI can't detect something that isn't there. Really though nothing could prevent Arkin from entering the dimension.

9) Most of what you say is semi irrelevant. The regenerating coat wouldn't prevent it from passing it would just slow down the next batch of acid. In fact it would actually trap the acid under it.

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15-Feb-2015 06:08:07

Ashlin107

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Well I get to you in a minute since you put your 5 cents in while I was still writing. Although you probably have a few interesting points. :P

9) Continued... Also as for the armour it still wouldn't prevent it. It would slow it down quite a bit sure. But it wouldn't stop it. Also it does have technology in it which basically will consume anything. I believe I might have used them before.

Ok now Magery what things do you have for me. :P

EDIT: Well I've got some reading to do. The statement below is false.
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15-Feb-2015 06:12:18 - Last edited on 15-Feb-2015 06:18:50 by Ashlin107

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