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Englishkid62

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After, “fun,” there should be either a conjunction to connect the two complete phrases or use a semi-colon. I would suggest a conjunction such as and.
--Looking back, I think I should have used a dash, probably.
“Somehow, deep inside we all knew that.”
Comma after, “inside.” Thanks.
--Yup, you’re correct there.
“I became a member that night, and I had never thought I would be convinced into paying for something as airy, as insubstantial as this.”
The end should be adjusted so the comma is replaced with the conjunction, “and.”
--Here, the sentence structure is not that clear. ‘As airy, as insubstantial as this’ works grammatically as an expression. The comma worked as a pause. I think the ‘and’ would ruin it, actually.
“I managed not to win a single ticket, after an hour, or any form of reward…”
The comma after, “ticket,” does not need to be there. After an hour is part of the first phrase in the sentence.
--In this case it does sound better without the comma.
“I never acquired the habit of arriving early, for anything, and that proved disadvantageous now.*
Once again, “for anything,” is part of the beginning phrase.
--Here, I intended ‘for anything’ to be of special emphasis. This is to emphasise the narrator’s belief that he will not arrive early for anything no matter what, because he doesn’t see the point of it.
“However, the dropped items, which now some of the guests were holding in their hands, boasting proudly, were…”
This should look different, actually. Too many commas can cause confusion. It looks better like this:
“However, the dropped items—which now some of the guests were holding in their hands, boasting proudly—were…”
--I guess highlighting the non-restrictive clauses does help with the confusion.
“…as though the building itself were a magical factory, where dreams were born.”

08-May-2011 15:47:14 - Last edited on 08-May-2011 15:47:43 by Englishkid62

Englishkid62

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Okay, the comma after, “factory,” can go since, “where dreams were born,” is part of the phrase. And were in reference to building should be was. Your subject and predicate need to agree.
--Here, I’m using the subjunctive tense. While it may sound weird, it is grammatically correct to use ‘were’ here if I *were* in the subjunctive. If I weren’t in the subjunctive, I would indeed be incorrect.
“There were beautiful mahogany furniture, huge water fountains in the garden, and gilded shrines, none of which I could afford.”
The comma after, “shrines,” can be replaced with a dash mark in order to distinguish that, “none of which I can afford,” is not part of the list you established at the beginning of the sentence.
--Yes indeed.
“The first was those who inherited their wealth from a senior, more experienced player, like a legacy, when they left the game.”
“Like a legacy,” seems to interrupt the flow of the sentence, and it really isn’t necessary. One does not need to be a legacy in order to rich in RuneScape. I would simply remove it.
--Must have been confused there. The ‘legacy’ was referring to the wealth, not the experienced players themselves.
**I think he is a hacker, he drops twenty millions every week.’”
Two complete phrases should not be joined with a comma. A semi-colon is more appropriate.
--I think I’d use a full-stop in here because the two clauses don’t seem too closely related.
“The gold twinkled in his hands as he converted, with a passion, a pile of bank notes into cold, hard, cash.”
“Cash,” is not part of the list. In fact, the bone being converted is said to be cold cash and hard cash. So there should be no comma after hard. The phrase is, “cold, hard cash.”
--I see what you mean. I’ll change that.
“I could only stare ahead, in one direction, oblivious to my surrounding, ignoring them at all costs.”
The comma after, “ahead,” can be removed since you’re breaking up a phrase. “Surrounding,” should be, “surroundings.”

08-May-2011 15:48:01

Englishkid62

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--You are quite right.
“He was always busy, but he never forgot to say 'hi', through private messages, as soon as I was available to talk.”
Here you should quote like this: “…never forgot to say, *hi,* through private messages…” Oh, and the comma after messages doesn’t need to be there since it splits up the phrase. I feel a trend.
--Having the comma inside the quotation is a characteristic distinct to American English which I will not adopt in my writing under any circumstances :P . The comma after it offers the pause.
“…pungent buckets of compost and filthy worms came to life and became vivid in my mind, when Farming was mentioned.”
Comma doesn’t need to be there.
--The comma is there to indicate that this sentence worked like Yoda’s grammar.
“Some children preferred hanging around in a smaller group, seeking genuine soulmates and studied together in the library, consulting each other for academic knowledge, or advancement.”
Right here, you have some tense issues. “Studied,” should be, “studying,” because you need to keep the tenses the same. “Seeking,” and, “studied,” are two different tenses.
--Studying is indeed correct here.
“He always had his hood up in school, hoping to be seen by nobody, despite his teachers repeatedly instructed him to remove it in lessons, which to his dismay only drew more attention from his classmates.”
This sentence doesn’t make sense structurally. “Instructed,” should be in the -ing tense. The -ed tense doesn’t fit well here. Also, commas should be between, “to his dismay,” due to it being a break in the phrase. It’s like the odd one out.
--You’re right about the tense. I left the comma out because I wanted this phrase to flow onto the next.
“It was by chance, that David caught Alex spying on him, and to Alex’s horror he looked up and threw a frown in his direction.”
The comma after, “chance,” shouldn’t be there because it interrupts a phrase. Also, there should be a comma between, “to Alex’s horror.”

08-May-2011 15:48:22

Englishkid62

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--I’ll rectify the first, but not the second, for the above reason.
“The lights were off, however, and theoretically nobody would know, or even care where the beautiful music came from. When Kipplin played the guitar every note, every beat, and every bar was tinged with the bitterest of emotions – it was despairingly romantic.”
Alright, there should be a comma after, “care,” because, “or even care,” is a separate thought and needs to have commas between it. Also, a comma should be after, “guitar.” I can never explain this one. I only know because I’ve been told about it. I know that makes me a bad reviewer, but hey, I can’t help this one.
--For the purposes of this I probably would delete the comma after ‘off’ as well. I’ll add the comma after guitar.
“These few words had banished the universe, the world of darkness in which Alex had known, forever.”
And the comma after, “known.”
--Again, this emphasizes ‘forever’.
“It was not clear when Kipplin finally found a purpose in life – to love David with all his heart.”
This sentence makes no sense. What do you mean by his purpose was not clear? Don’t you mean it was clear?
--I think it meant, ‘It was not clear WHEN Kipplin finally found…’. In other words, to the narrator (or even to Kipplin himself) wasn’t sure when exactly Kipplin started to feel this way, or found this purpose in his own life.
“If he was an advanced player, experienced, rich, and have impressive skills to be admired, David would speak to him again.”
Two things. One, the list should be surrounded by dash marks because the sentence could simply be, “If he was an advanced player, David would speak to him again.” Also, there is a tense error. “Have,” should be in the past tense. It is currently in the present tense.
--You’re right there. I’ll change that.
“If David would not grant him his love, because he was unworthy at the time, he would earn it with his own two hands.”

08-May-2011 15:48:46

Englishkid62

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The comma after, “love,” should be removed. At this point, I don’t need to tell you why.
--Right here again.
“He would do anything to have David, damn the others, damn everybody in his path.”
This is probably best to split into three separate sentences.
--I can’t remember how Kreia phrased this in Kotor 2, but regardless, I’ll probably add a full stop before the first damn.
“He told me he had a huge row with his parents, one day, to get browser games ‘legalised’ in the household.”
One day is part of the phrase and not a separate thought. I think you know what you need to do here.
--You suggestions works.
“Yes, there were moments when he needed quick cash and he took people to Falador, and scammed them, for which he had always felt guilty about and decided later that he should give away his things, to make amends, perhaps, to his victims.”
Ooh. This doesn’t look right. Split the sentence. Something like, “Yes, there were moments where he needed quick cash. He took people to Falador and scammed them, for which he had always felt about, and decided later that should give away his things to make amends, perhaps, to his victims.”
--I’ll confer with someone about this. I’m sure this is grammatically correct.
Okay, anyway, “needed,” is in the wrong tense.
--Yup.
“Then I left him in peace, I could trust David to turn up on time, and not to ruin the whole afternoon.”
That first comma should either be a period or a semicolon.
--Period it is.
“‘You just turn up to places, don’t you, Jen,’ David shrugged. ‘We managed to bump into each other outside the park, what a coincidence…’”
Isn’t that supposed to be a rhetorical question? Either way, a question mark should be at the end instead of a comma. And the second sentence should be split into two.
--I agree with this here.
“I didn't want her to come. There was no plan 'B’ to counter God’s over-arching scheme, there was only improvisation – I had expected this to pull off.”

08-May-2011 15:49:10

Englishkid62

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The comma after, “scheme,” should be a semicolon.
--Yes, I think a semicolon works here.
“‘Please, can we just sit here – I hurt my toe,’ Jenna claimed, preposterously. ‘I can’t walk today.’”
A question mark is missing here.
--Yes, it is.
“It was never meant to last. It was fun, and that was all it was, a joke.”
The comma after, “was,” should be a colon. “A joke,” is a statement referring to what the relationship between David and Jenna is.
--Colon works nicely here, I think.
*It was all meaningless now, the parties, the mansion, and the time he spent.”
The comma after, “now,* should be a colon.
--And here.

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Once again, thank you. Your comments have been helpful and insightful. I hope it didn't take too much time off your studies ^_^
Azigarath - that's because you shut off your emotions! :P

08-May-2011 15:49:58 - Last edited on 08-May-2011 15:50:44 by Englishkid62

Venmi

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Tomorrow, I will respond in detail to what you didn't agree with and stuff about the story that I find fascinating to talk about. I would do it now, but I still need to finish homework, and it's been quite a day. I can't think straight. Sorry about that.
Edit: I guess I lied. Today was a hectic day, English. Tomorrow, definitely.

09-May-2011 00:13:01 - Last edited on 10-May-2011 01:11:16 by Venmi

Venmi

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“For the description, I don’t know about you, but many reviewers have criticized the lack of it. They’d say that I did*’t devote paragraphs describing Kipplin’s mansion, or RuneScape, or the college, or most things. In terms of actual textural details of each object is not given very much attention. So, on that day at the bench I could have described the colour of the sky, the clouds, the grass, and so on. I’m glad however, that you found it sufficient!”
--Here’s the kicker. Having paragraphs of description would hurt this type of story. The description comes from the narrator and his interactions, not from what’s around him. I think the way you describe the setting works for this story. It’s the emotions you describe that really come out and make an impact.
“Really? In what sense? Many readers told me they least identify with David, and identify with either the narrator or Kipplin. It really is fascinating. Would you mind me asking why you are a ‘David’? Not to mention David is perhaps the most hated character in the story, lol!”
--I feel like I am a David because I have been giving a friend of mine hope—a friend who has went through a few hardships and felt like she couldn’t go on. Also, she is like Kipplin—an outcast. Like I said, I am the side of David that inspired Kipplin, not the side he is when he is with Jenna.

10-May-2011 22:48:50

Venmi

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“--Interesting. When I wrote this I never gave the demon butler much thought, except perhaps it was a hint of a demon in Kipplin, or that a demon butler emphasises how imposing this person is, or simply because it was the best butler available in game. What sort of significance would you suggest?”
--Huge significance is not exactly needed, but you describe the grandeur of the house, including the rugs, curtains, dungeons, and whatever else. The demon butler is a servant within the house, and should be looked at more like another person than a material item. I am not entirely sure how to do that or what exactly you want, but I know the demon butler deserves more recognition than that.
““RuneScape provided an ethereal, fantasy world in which no one would ever tell me what to do.”
To me, it sounds better if it’s an ethereal fantasy world instead of an ethereal, fantasy world. The fantasy world is ethereal, so a comma doesn’t seem necessary.
--The reading voice demanded a pause after ethereal. Just to make it absolutely clear that when readers read it aloud, I want a pause there (Part of the music-making of reading, I guess you could say), I added the comma. It was a stylistic choice.”
--That makes a lot of sense.
““Drinking was our passion too. It was fun, it numbed the pain and consciousness.”
After, “fun,” there should be either a conjunction to connect the two complete phrases or use a semi-colon. I would suggest a conjunction such as and.
--Looking back, I think I should have used a dash, probably.”
--That works.
“--Here, the sentence structure is not that clear. ‘As airy, as insubstantial as this’ works grammatically as an expression. The comma worked as a pause. I think the ‘and’ would ruin it, actually.”
--I guess. Maybe dash marks around, “as insubstantial.” The comma just doesn’t feel right to me.

10-May-2011 22:49:10

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