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Quick5ilvr

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Inferi said :
Arcane Warrior > everything else

And that applies to all games. Mechanics don't enter into the discussion.

Ahhh, my dear Inferi. I'm someone that actually strives for a challenge in gameplay. As such I refuse to play Arcane Warrior in Dragon Age, and I refuse to play sneak archer in Skyrim.

Now, the real challenge is to play Fallout with nothing but your hammer and 1 Intelligence. It's so funny because they change your dialogue to reflect your character's stupidity lol Cower, worship, or beg. All are valid choices.

07-Nov-2015 04:21:55

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Quick5ilvr said :
The idea was the character is a mage, but he kills people by using his blood as a potent poison. Alchemy is just a side thing, because I love alchemical characters...

Oh.

Well, I suppose that's an option. Although giving someone your blood to kill them only to use that blood to do something else is extremely inefficient. Their entire body does not immediately become filled with mana-infused blood, it is only the blood you gave them that has the magical properties.

Then there's also the issue that you have to at least be in physical contact with Mage Blood to use it. Your hand sort of soaks it up like a sponge as you try to harness it and use it for a spell.

Right now I'm imagining two scenarios:

Scenario 1: You force a vial of mage blood through their lips.
If you want to use that blood afterwards you would literally have to cut them open and reach into wherever you think the blood has gotten to (their stomach???), and hope that's your blood you're sticking your hand into.

Scenario 2: You cut them with a knife coated in mage blood.
Same as scenario 1, only the mage blood is in their veins and can be dispersed throughout their body.

You sort of threw me off when you said your character would get sick though. A mage doesn't get sick when they give another person their blood. It is the non-mage who consumes the mage blood that gets sick.

Also, mage blood is a pretty terrible poison unless you just want to see your victim suffer. It takes a few hours to kill them, during which they are coughing fire and sneezing lightning.

At least, that's what I was imagining at first. But I just realized now that you could technically cast a whole bunch of spells until the blood you consume is gone from your system. I might just make it an insta-kill then. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

07-Nov-2015 04:31:04

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I was thinking of the alchemist is just naturally sick.

Then the delivery method was going to be via claw made through magic that he rams into someone's abdomen and uses that to kill them now and later :P

I suppose if he stabs another mage via that method, he could maybe absorb their blood and localize it within the claw itself. Then use that to power his next few attacks.

I don't know. Mostly theory-crafting at this point. Cower, worship, or beg. All are valid choices.

07-Nov-2015 04:36:54

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Inferi said :
There's always going to be differences with every incarnation because the worlds aren't the same. However, the principle is the same: use blood for creating magic, whether that blood is yours or that of another. The main difference is that there's no other way to make magic work apart from blood.

Then you could also say that it's basically magic from every other fantasy ever. You're still using a power source to hurl fire and whatnot at your opponents, and when that power source depletes you can no longer cast spells and may or may not experience some sort of physical pain or tiredness.

I was just thinking I'd take a slightly unique spin on magic.

Instead of "Blood magic is just one type of magic, and it is evil, forbidden, and taboo!" it is: "All magic is blood magic, and it is only evil, forbidden, and taboo if you use someone else's blood." Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

07-Nov-2015 04:37:57

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Quick5ilvr said :
I was thinking of the alchemist is just naturally sick.

Then the delivery method was going to be via claw made through magic that he rams into someone's abdomen and uses that to kill them now and later :P

I suppose if he stabs another mage via that method, he could maybe absorb their blood and localize it within the claw itself. Then use that to power his next few attacks.

I don't know. Mostly theory-crafting at this point.

Well, any character could be naturally sick. Actually, one character I have had in mind for a while is a frail old man who is an awesome mage, but is constantly suffering the effects of a deadly poison, and the only reason it hasn't killed him is he put on a poison immunity ring immediately after it entered his system.

You could absorb mage blood that way, yes. Although you would have to keep the claw inside the mage as you cast your spells - you can't just snatch the mana out of the blood and save it for later.

Or at least, no known mage has successfully done that just yet. Also, most of the enemies encountered aren't going to be mages due to magic being extremely rare (1 in 500.) I'm even going to limit the amount of player characters who can be mages to about two or three. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

07-Nov-2015 04:44:59 - Last edited on 07-Nov-2015 04:45:47 by NotFishing

Inferi

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Quick5ilvr said :
Ahhh, my dear Inferi. I'm someone that actually strives for a challenge in gameplay. As such I refuse to play Arcane Warrior in Dragon Age, and I refuse to play sneak archer in Skyrim.

I think you're referring to Knight-Enchanter, since Arcane Warriors in origins weren't OP. What I meant by mechanics not entering into the conversation is that I don't care how strong the class is because I like the theme of an Arcane Warrior the best. I'm somewhat offended by the implication that I don't like a game to be challenging, but I can understand why that impression might come across.


As for you, Fish, no need to be so defensive. The only thing I was challenging was the fact that the idea is entirely unique, because it's not. It's not a bad idea, and it's not an idea that shouldn't be used. Done in by the dubious doings of destiny.

07-Nov-2015 05:03:59 - Last edited on 07-Nov-2015 05:04:51 by Inferi

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I'm probably woefully late to the conversation, but if you guys play on PC and want a real challenge in either Skyrim or Fallout, try some of the survival mods. Frostfall for Skyrim and DUST for Fallout New Vegas. DUST actually makes Fallout harder than it would be to survive in a real nuclear wasteland.

07-Nov-2015 05:51:00

Quick5ilvr

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Sounds like you didn't play Arcane Warrior the way my friend did. I'm sorry, it's not often that I get to speak with other Dragon Age players. Of all the people I know, there are only 2 others that play and our general consensus was that Arcane Warrior was OP in Origins, but not to the degree that Knight-Enchanter was [who thought that was fair O.o ]. Regardless, this is the official apology for you. Thank you for calling me out on my crap :)

And Gunslinger, I love Frostfall. I'd recommend Perkus Maximus as it overhauls Skyrim and makes just about every skill combat viable. It's pretty sweet. Cower, worship, or beg. All are valid choices.

07-Nov-2015 13:00:00 - Last edited on 07-Nov-2015 13:03:29 by Quick5ilvr

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