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NotFishing

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Alright, I'm gonna give my two cents as the GM. I had meant to do so earlier but I couldn't find the time, and others beat me to it.

One issue thus far is that you seem to be make assumptions as a player, even when they aren't necessarily supported by the text, and then go on to have your character make those same assumptions, even when there are no hints toward them in-character.

'The Kalodar Stone' is an example of this. I didn't say what it was, and that was deliberate. I had only told George what it was, and that was in a conversation outside of this forum - the intent was to have it be a conversation piece players could ask his character about which might lead to some interesting RP. However, you seem to have had your character assume it was a magical artifact that could grant immortality or something like that, and then had him fear that Roland would steal it.

A lot of this speculation seemed a bit... out there, at the time. If you want to roleplay your character as being a bit paranoid, then that's fine. He's a household knight in the service of the most important family in the world - it's good that he is wary toward potential threats. However, if this isn't your intention, then I would encourage you to be a bit more careful about making assumptions like that. If anything is unclear - please ask. I'm happy to provide additional context and information on the setting as needed.

Your character did make some logical deductions. For example, you successfully picked up on the fact that most goblins wouldn't be able to throw a dagger with enough strength to go straight through the King's neck with the tip poking out the other end. Those were good reasoning skills.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

04-Feb-2022 05:34:05

NotFishing

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I should also note - your character's most recent claim, that "it’s as if the portal sucked out the king’s life?" I'm not sure why Dalhover is thinking this. The King is just a corpse - there's nothing unusual about him other than the wound that killed him. The first assumption anyone would make is that the wound was the sole cause of death.

The only reason why characters like Adrienne and Flynn are noticing anything is off is due to their unique abilities. Adrienne can sense emotion so she'd know what the King is thinking/feeling in his final moments, while Flynn has access to death magic and can therefore sense spirits and souls and whatnot. This is how Flynn has realized the King doesn't have a soul - the soul did not exit the body, and there is no sign that it is still in the body. However, only Flynn can realize this, due to his abilities. He has yet to explain this to anyone, and Dalhover is not privy to his thoughts.

The reason why Maddy and George knew to put that information in their posts is because I privately revealed it to them outside the forum. Since it was something only they would know and I wanted them to be able to decide how they wished to reveal it, in order to make their abilities seem more relevant to the story.

I do think it's reasonable for Dalhover to be fixated on the death mage in a situation where someone has just died, especially if he's perceptive or empathetic enough to notice that Flynn seems to be seeing things that others aren't. But it feels like Dalhover is only focusing on Flynn is because you, the player, have caught on to the fact that Flynn knows stuff in this situation, and not because Dalhover, the character, has caught on to that as well. I think your posts would be enhanced if you spent a bit more time explaining Dalhover's thought process and where he is getting this evidence from.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

04-Feb-2022 05:48:15 - Last edited on 04-Feb-2022 05:53:35 by NotFishing

NotFishing

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I think Dalhover has great potential as a character, and I think it's interesting that you've chosen to be the only non-magical player-character in a thread where most of the player-characters have magic. So if you ever have any questions, or there's anything you are confused about - just ask. I don't mind taking the time to explain things and I'm perfectly willing to work with you on this. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

04-Feb-2022 05:48:23

Azi Demonica

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You’re right for sure, all points are good. Even in real life, I don’t fit in, so I shouldn’t be surprised my RP characters have the same side effect. Ha, ya, I can be random and unexpected, I’m like that in real life, too. In my writing, I try to create characters who are remarkable, memorable and different, though it doesn’t seem to work out well.

Yes, I recall the Ashlands RP. I thought it was a minor event but turns out it was much more serious than I thought! Griselda was one of my favorite characters to RP with, though it didn’t work. But yes, sometimes my characters are more like caricatures or too satirical. I never knew what works, so sometimes I go radically too different or too stereotypical, without finding a balance or expectation that works. Also explains why nobody reads my stories XD but oh well, some people just aren’t meant to be authors.

Ha, ya, Dalhover was meant to be like the crazy uncle trope. It’s nice that he does fit, so at least there’s some improvement. But yes, he does go into paranoia, something that plagues older people, especially when they are former soldiers. Although not mentioned anywhere, this was meant to portray PTSD due to his near-death adventures amidst monsters and evil men. Also hence his conspiratorial views, even in mundane things.

A peculiar trait for soldiers suffering from PTSD is lack of emotions when they should show them, so death in friends or family won’t bother Dalhover much, trauma coming later. Of course, this is not totally consistent with all people with combat stress/PTSD, but it was a trait I read in both Canadian and American websites talking about it. Even when he mentioned his wife was dead he admitted it without much worry. I had a scene planned for Dalhover to react to the sound of teeth touching glass, reminding him of the jaws of monsters and triggering something in him, but figured it was unimportant.

04-Feb-2022 05:51:01

Azi Demonica

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Nevertheless, the PTSD may have not been the right idea in the first place, though I could work around it somehow, as sufferers an suddenly change, too.

(I almost posted this without noticing Fishing’s response!)

Yes, the assumptions were meant to portray Dalhover’s fracturing mind, but also to thrust me into any potential mistakes that needed correcting, which I thought would be peculiar to implement during RPing.

Yes, his proactiveness on finding threats would show his character, rather than just say it, keeping things dynamic.

Ha, ya, it made sense because Dalhover, a martial artist and swordsman, would understand how weapons work more than understanding societal norms. He was meant to be a character with limits and weaknesses, as to not be in the way. Then again, maybe I still am getting in the way regardless! Ha. So much for that. I’ll figure it out eventually, hopefully.

Oh, that’s just Dalhover trying (unsuccessfully) to figure out what happened, going from one conclusion to the next. Something uniquely odd happened, so his reasoning is kinda everywhere, to portray confusion rather than describe it.

Oh? I had no idea you contacted them about those, I thought they just added it themselves to build the RP! I never would have guessed, nor have gotten such an idea.

I've made lots of notes about user characters in a Google Doc document, so I think I can work things out. Maybe.

Thanks all for the discussion, it helps me think and improve, two things I struggle at!

04-Feb-2022 05:52:05 - Last edited on 04-Feb-2022 05:57:13 by Azi Demonica

Azi Demonica

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res (just noticed your second post which I missed)

Turns out I didn't need a third post. Sorry for the clunky reply, I tried getting this done ASAP, not noticing Fishing's second post.



Oh, and I forgot to say, but there are definitely moments when Dalhover's actions are based on my misunderstandings rather than his character, too.

04-Feb-2022 05:52:58 - Last edited on 04-Feb-2022 19:52:18 by Azi Demonica

Azi Demonica

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I forgot to say, but there are indeed times when Dalhover's actions are due to my misunderstandings or misinterpretations of RPing content. I can't use the excuse of 'oh he's a bit paranoid' to shield myself from corrections, after all. There's always the possibility that I don't get something and write a scene that indeed is based on my fault and not Dalhover's trauma.

05-Feb-2022 00:30:13

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