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Azi Demonica

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By pracitcal I take it you meant practical? Well, the Undead Legion helmet is not too practical, it'd be better than nothing, but it only protects the very top of your head. It does not protect the face or the sides or back of the head. It would only protect against attacks directly to the top of your head. At least in Europe, the most common ways to attack the head was to cut sideways across the eye sockets or above the jawbone (twerhaw*), or a thrust through the mouth or face (zornhaw, schilhaw*).

*=some other sources have the same name but use a different technique

15-Sep-2016 00:23:22 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2016 00:23:59 by Azi Demonica

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Oceiros is officially my favourite Dark Souls boss, and I haven't even beat him yet.

Deltaslug said :
NotFishing said :
Deltaslug said :
What kind of effect would a hat with +10 Charisma have against a +3 Bastard Sword?


No Charisma in Dark Souls, sadly.

Although, if there was, the Undead Legion helmet should definitely have it. Snazzy AND pracitcal.


Oh.


Would be awesome if there was charisma, though.

Player: Stop whining and set yourself on fire.
Persuasion Check Passed!
Lord of Cinder: K

Actually, that would take away any sort of challenge.

Azi Demonica said :
By pracitcal I take it you meant practical? Well, the Undead Legion helmet is not too practical, it'd be better than nothing, but it only protects the very top of your head. It does not protect the face or the sides or back of the head. It would only protect against attacks directly to the top of your head. At least in Europe, the most common ways to attack the head was to cut sideways across the eye sockets or above the jawbone (twerhaw*), or a thrust through the mouth or face (zornhaw, schilhaw*).


ACTUALLY, if you look closely the helmet also has a metal mask that is obscured by the helmet's brim and mostly covered by the face mask.

Overall, though, the Undead Legion set isn't heavy armor. The descriptions of the various Abyss Watcher armor and weapons state that they are trained for speed - they aren't even supposed to use shields. Their armor is really just leather with some metal armor on the head, left arm, and knees.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

15-Sep-2016 01:30:17 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2016 01:32:58 by NotFishing

Azi Demonica

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Hello Annie.

Oceiros is a very cool boss, even though I wasted him in my first go with just a Claymore +3, he is a very interesting fellow. You don't meet his son though, or perhaps his son is that knight sitting cross-legged at the end of the level serving as nothing but a statue or something. The end of the wall is a secret, you can hit through it, and if you defeat the Nameless King and come back, the cross-legged knight "drops" Drakeblood armour, which reappears from Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin.

Ah, yes, to link the fire... Dark Souls 1 ending was rather surprising, it did not expect my character to go through such a fiery end, but it was a satisfying ending, even though I have no idea what it means.

Oh, Undead Legion Helm has a metal mask? I did not know, never noticed, at all. Indeed, the Legionnaires wear "leather armour", a gauntlet, and a miniature morion, a rather bad combination, but it'd be better than nothing. Curiously enough, historically, there was never "leather armour", it was never worn, as leather is just another term for rawhide, a very weak material. Rawhide/leather must be boiled or baked to become hard enough to serve as armour, and all leather in-game does not appear to have been so. There is "hardened leather" but it does not look baked or boiled, but it may have been waxed. Leather/rawhide boiled or baked becomes as hard as soft iron, but does not have the weight, or the overall strength of true metal. It was popularly worn by Ancient Greeks and Romans, Franks, and Mongols, but medieval Europe seems to have largely ignored leather armour. It made a reappearance in Europe during the 1700s and 1800s, though.

15-Sep-2016 03:57:36

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Azi Demonica said :
Ah, yes, to link the fire... Dark Souls 1 ending was rather surprising, it did not expect my character to go through such a fiery end, but it was a satisfying ending, even though I have no idea what it means.


It was doubly surprising for me. I completely missed the Bonfire in the middle of the room and walked out, triggering the Dark Lord ending and leaving me totally confused as to what was happening. My character accidentally plunged the world into an age of unholy darkness after taking a step outside for some fresh air. Oops.

Azi Demonica said :
Oh, Undead Legion Helm has a metal mask? I did not know, never noticed, at all.


I only noticed it because I was able to get the camera angle into a close-up of my character's face during an elevator ride. I think I also saw what appeared to be chainmail beneath the wig, but that could have just been my character's real hair affected by the lighting.

Azi Demonica said :
Curiously enough, historically, there was never "leather armour", it was never worn, as leather is just another term for rawhide, a very weak material. Rawhide/leather must be boiled or baked to become hard enough to serve as armour, and all leather in-game does not appear to have been so.


Historically, people never dual-wielded greatswords and parrying daggers either, or did ninja flips around a battlefield. The Abyss Watchers seem more like skirmishers and guerilla fighters than an actual legion that leads the charge into the Abyss every time it rears its head

But considering they are undead, I guess practicality doesn't really matter much to them, since they'll just come back. They probably dress that way as some sort of challenge mode (and also to look cool.)

Maybe that is Hawkwood's true backstory? When they realized he was using a shield, they deemed him a filthy casual and kicked him out of their club.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

15-Sep-2016 04:14:19 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2016 04:25:04 by NotFishing

Azi Demonica

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*walks out for some fresh air* *triggers the Age of Dark* Oops indeed. Speaking of which, I never knew about the “evil ending” until I read about it, I will have to do that ending next time.

As for great swords, there are times you can swing it in one hand, this is shown in fight manuals. But ya, a longsword or great is not suitable for use with a parrying dagger, but you can see occasional depictions of longswords used on foot in one hand, with a buckler wielded in the other.

I think your analyses of the Legion makes sense overall. After I killed Hawkwood to obtain that dragon stone thing, I noticed his odd moves, and if you could do that, it'd be useful against multiple opponents so long as they did not wear any armour, but it'd leave your arms and legs vulnerable to being loped off.

Maybe Hawkwood was kicked out for having a shield, but I think he deserted, maybe to pursue the dragon path. Shields look cool though, and greatshields are useful for boss fights.

Oh, and I will be renovating my Dracula RP thread, taking out large chunks of it to focus on the late 1800s and the locale of Romania, as well as the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Ottoman Empire, to involve greater diversity. There are also several minor factions.

15-Sep-2016 19:38:08 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2016 19:39:34 by Azi Demonica

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Azi Demonica said :
*walks out for some fresh air* *triggers the Age of Dark* Oops indeed. Speaking of which, I never knew about the “evil ending” until I read about it, I will have to do that ending next time.


Make sure to clear out New Londo and deal with the Four Kings before you give the Lord Vessel to Frampt. So long as it's in your inventory, Ingward will give you the Key to The Seal (or you could just kill him.) You meet a secret NPC, if you don't already know about him.

But the ending isn't necessarily evil. It really depends on your character, as well as their beliefs and motivations.

Azi Demonica said :
Maybe Hawkwood was kicked out for having a shield, but I think he deserted, maybe to pursue the dragon path. Shields look cool though, and greatshields are useful for boss fights.


I think he just deserted because he didn't want to Link the Flame.

By the way, please don't spoil any more of the NPC questlines. I have only completed Siegward's. That thief guy disappeared after I sent him to Irithyll (I looked it up and apparently he died, but his body isn't where it is supposed to be.) I accidentally killed the blind cleric when I put my controller down, and then had to kill her knight in self defense. That weird sorcerer dude with the turtle shell also died, which sucks because I never even bothered to speak with him. I gave the Firekeeper some eyes I found in an alternate reality, and now she won't shut up about how miserable she is.

Apparently there is a Pyromancer Trainer somewhere but I never met him, although at this rate he is probably better off because of it. And I stayed clear of that shifty guy who gave me the Cracked Red Eyed Orbs.

I have definitely made some mistakes. At least Patches and Andre are still okay, though.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

15-Sep-2016 23:47:05 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2016 23:52:01 by NotFishing

Azi Demonica

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I don't think I spoiled the storylines, as I do not have an answer. As for me, when I gave the Firekeeper the eyes, she isn't talking about how bad her life is, at all. As for me, that clerical maiden disappeared, as did the Morne knight, and the turtle-wizard also is dead, as is Anri and the other turtle-wizard. I have not seen Siegward since I defeated the first fire demon. There is a guy who remarks about my Red Eye Orb and has been for the past fifty hours or so. That's all I can say.

And, when I simplified my Dracula RP, suddenly it become longer. I will have to simplify it even more.

Hm, I'm not sure how to edit the posts to make them simpler. All content I put thus far organizes everything, so users don't have to scroll around to find certain info. Oh well, this forum seems dead anyways. To those who may care, I have created an account in roleplaygateway and my username there is JonathanKonopka.

15-Sep-2016 23:59:53 - Last edited on 16-Sep-2016 00:08:06 by Azi Demonica

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