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Ancient Drew

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Fysyx said :
I've never particularly seen werewolves as victims except by the ostracization by society and by oppressive inter-pack us vs. them mentalities. I think they'll be the most effective of any of the factions against the helpless masses early on, though I think the vamps will pick it up late game, however, I think the werewolves will get crushed in pvp versus magic (vamps) and magic weapons (champs) even with their buffed physical stats.

Also, proposing the alternate title of Sorus Thread? Or maybe Vamps and Champs, though that admittedly leaves out the wolves and team 4, which I honestly hope to be a bunch of badass normals, maybe with some spells or magic items to let them survive/not instantly die against supernatural vamp/wolf/champ powers. Werewolves could be faster and have some magical resistance, levelling things out a bit. Otherwise there is little point in becoming a werewolf and getting thrown about like a ragdoll by wizards. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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09-Aug-2016 15:25:56

Westenev

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Vamps do have a dependency on human blood; as things stand, a werewolf could simply outlast them. Add to that a werewolf doesn't appear to leave a body count (and doesn't maintain a population limited by the number of local humans), and you'll realise quickly it's hard to track a werewolf's general location - whereas you could definitely sleuth a vampires if you knew what to look for.

Now, if we made werewolves have to eat people mystery meat...
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09-Aug-2016 17:20:09 - Last edited on 09-Aug-2016 17:32:34 by Westenev

NotFishing

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Well, in terms of general drawbacks that a sibling might disapprove of, everyone suffers a gradual attitude change. The sibling will catch on to this, and start to ask questions like: "Why you being a dick? Why did you attack that guy when you could have asked him to move out of the way? You're disappearing for long hours and when I asked you what was going on you growled at me. Also I don't like that you are basically a slave to some shady guy who can kill you whenever he wants." And then come to the conclusion that the powers are bad.

Also I'd say that the Vampires would be better off in the sense that they attract the least attention. They favor stealth and manipulation through their Invisibility and Charm, none of which actually require them to transform. If they do get detected, they can use their invisibility to escape, transform and fly away, or talk their way out.

Meanwhile the Champions are walking beacons of light, and the Werewolves are loud and destructive. Their abilities are more combat oriented, and neither of them are very subtle.

Also remember that your goal isn't just to wipe the others out, but to make your own presence stronger. Vampires can charm their way through the law enforcement, the city's government, and the upper class, which is great for their ultimate goal of taking over the city.

TL;DR: While the Werewolves and Champions are busy fighting in the streets, the Vampires gather recruits and slowly turn the city's elite. The numerical advantage combined with their ability to stay hidden and the influence at their disposal will make them a force to be reckoned with, if they play their cards right. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

09-Aug-2016 18:36:55 - Last edited on 09-Aug-2016 18:56:07 by NotFishing

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Fysyx said :
Also, proposing the alternate title of Sorus Thread? Or maybe Vamps and Champs, though that admittedly leaves out the wolves and team 4, which I honestly hope to be a bunch of badass normals, maybe with some spells or magic items to let them survive/not instantly die against supernatural vamp/wolf/champ powers.

I'm going to say this right now: The Champions are the only faction that seeks to protect the normals. The Vampires want to enslave them, the Werewolves want to hunt them, and my faction isn't too fond of them either. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

09-Aug-2016 18:58:41 - Last edited on 09-Aug-2016 19:00:09 by NotFishing

George Rozas

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I would like to contest the point of Werewolves not being subtle, at least not to the degree you claim. They certainly can be loud and destructive, but they're predators, they stalk their prey and strike when the time is right. Enhanced senses make them ridiculously good hunters, and it makes them very capable of judging how loud they are being when they move, so potentially they can be ridiculously stealthy too. Not invisible sure, but inhumanly quiet. I am Inferi.

09-Aug-2016 19:00:21

George Rozas

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Hunt the normals? Seems odd to me. You said youself, normals will get WRECKED by any of the recruits, so turning the world into a hunting ground so they can run people down for sport seems dull. Mostly because they're so much faster, stronger, vicious, etc, so there isn't any challenge for the most part. I am Inferi.

09-Aug-2016 19:04:05

Westenev

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Reminds me of werewolves in skyrim. Stand in a spot of shade, and nobody will ever see you coming until you knock them halfway across the room - despite the fact you're a seven foot hulking beast.

EDIT: Normals would be REKT in a fair fight. But fights aren't always fair, are they? :P
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09-Aug-2016 19:04:09 - Last edited on 09-Aug-2016 19:05:41 by Westenev

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George Rozas said :
Hunt the normals? Seems odd to me. You said youself, normals will get WRECKED by any of the recruits, so turning the world into a hunting ground so they can run people down for sport seems dull. Mostly because they're so much faster, stronger, vicious, etc, so there isn't any challenge for the most part.

Werewolves don't care for the weak. If they can bring down society, the normals will become a steady source of prey, and nature will be able to reclaim the planet. The challenge they seek will come from the Champions who will ramp up their efforts to protect humans as they try to rebuild society, and the Vampires who will be forced to become hunters instead of aristocrats, acting as competition. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

09-Aug-2016 19:20:07 - Last edited on 09-Aug-2016 19:21:01 by NotFishing

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Keep in mind that you don't necessarily HAVE to go that route by the way, you are still the leader. That is just the route your character will be pressured into taking, and they can either resist it or embrace it. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

09-Aug-2016 19:22:28 - Last edited on 09-Aug-2016 19:23:00 by NotFishing

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