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Poller5
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A very powerful piece, Level, which perfectly exploits the fact that some simple, short sentences can carry a great deal of weight. A nice and creative use of the prompt as well; I'd actually forgotten that children screamed until they got what they wanted, but I recognized the situation instantly, even though you hardly explained it. The irony of the last sentence is perhaps the most powerful part of the story (though the sentence itself seems somewhat awkward; the repetition of "and the" may be what's stiltig the reading); as much as they've taken each other's hands, they remain lonely. Good stuff.

The phenomenon of people watching terrible crimes and not reacting is not one of which I'm a particular fan; it speaks, I think, to a side of humanity which somehow lacks the narrative force that other sides carry. That said, I did find your story well written, Sam, which again evokes events without directly addressing them. The third paragraph is particularly powerful (and perhaps contains a reference to the sixth book of a popular fantasy series?), but I find the ending a little weak and odd. The last line robs the sense of finality without particularly carrying any sense of continuation; she screams again because she's killed him, I suppose, but the afterwards is a different story, and a reference to it seems out of place.

Your story, Serval, while well written (though the repetition of "had" in the second sentence makes for a slightly awkward reading), falls almost on the side of too vague. Your narrator is... ill, I think, though what with and the exact condition of her incarceration doesn't seem identifiable. The concision of your last sentences, however, is quite a neat touch; your ending is strong, even if I'm not quite sure what it's actually ending.

16-Feb-2014 07:08:46

Poller5
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As an aside, both you and Sammael ended your stories very similarly -- more screaming -- but to expand on what I said to him, in yours the screaming is part of the same narrative moment; she screams, you explain why she's screaming, she screams some more, whereas in his the second scream begins a second narrative, and so it doesn't work as well as an ending.

It shows, somewhat, Fysyx, that you're not as experienced a writer as many of the others here in the fact that your story doesn't read as smoothly as some of the others', but that's not something by which to be discouraged; you'll improve with practice. Your story is very short (does it actually reach 100 words) and also falls somewhat onto the side of too vague (in reading these, it seems to me that either a basic plot or location is necessary for them to truly shine) but ends with a wonderful rhetorical question. It doesn't seem to make perfect sense, but it feels as if it does, which is a very difficult trick but a powerful one.

It's been many long years since I was up to date on Runescape canon, Matt, so I'm afraid I can't identify the event to which your story occurs. With that handicap, I can't really make much of the story; the gold losing its lustre is an obvious metaphor, but the chill of his spine and sudden notion of liberation is unfortunately unscrutable. Of course, I won't hold that against you, because I'm clearly not the target audience of a story such as this. It's also somewhat obvious that the original was longer; it has the feeling of being condensed, and somehow missing something from a construction point of view.

Your piece is very strong, Chuk. Almost brilliant. The revelation in the third paragraph of why it had stopped, and the ********** of the thoughts in the second, is close to chilling. The one weakness is the last two sentences of that third paragraph, where you make a cardinal sin in writing, and do something that I personally hate.

16-Feb-2014 07:09:03

Poller5
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In regards to the former, you tell instead of show; to the latter, you use exclamation marks. To my mind, the only place they have in writing is dialogue, where a word can carry different weights; in description, the words you choose should carry the appropriate weight.

James, I will be blunt -- your story is the weakest of the ones posted this week. The repetitive nature of your sentences (subject verb noun, subject verb noun, subject verb noun) makes the story read like an instruction manual or a child's story, and your sparse description removes any emotion from the story. Your language doesn't make me feel anything for the girl, or even the narrator; things happen, but you don't make them sound as if they particularly matter. I'd suggest reading some of the other entries from this week, to see how other authors varied the construction of their sentences, built their characters, and established narrative impact.

I've tried to give fairly critical feedback to each of the stories, and have focussed mainly on weaknesses because I feel that they're the things that need addressing for truly constructive feedback. What I would like to emphasise, though, is that I was quite impressed with the general quality of the stories, and very thankful to each of you (especially the new faces) for taking the time to get involved; I hope to see you all writing another piece based on this week's prompt. With all that said, primarily due to the emotional power of your piece, Level, yours is my favourite from this week.

This week's prompt will probably catch those of you in the other hemisphere off guard, but it's the height of summer here and it's my thread, so start stretching those imaginations.

"Heat rose in waves to the discordant symphony of the cicadas' chirps."

16-Feb-2014 07:09:17 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2014 07:12:56 by Poller5

Chuk

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Poller5 said :
In regards to the former, you tell instead of show; to the latter, you use exclamation marks. To my mind, the only place they have in writing is dialogue, where a word can carry different weights; in description, the words you choose should carry the appropriate weight.


I shan't defend the telling instead of showing. That second to last sentence of that paragraph was my least favorite of the piece, one I couldn't quite get to fit, but felt I couldn't do without. (Do you think the piece would be strengthened by simply removing it?)

However, I will defend my use of exclamation points: those two sentences, though not in quotes or italics, were meant to be direct thoughts from the character - dialogue of a sort. Since I didn't use other formatting to show that (or first person, I suppose), I was hoping the phrasing combined with the use of said punctuation would make that more clear.

EDIT: Actually, I've rewritten it. Do you prefer the second version?


The scream stopped.

The man closed his eyes and sighed. Peaceful, now, without that wailing. His mind cleared; he smiled. So easy to find tranquility.

Immersed in quietude, his fingers relaxed, loosened a fraction; with a shuddering gasp, the woman whose throat he held screamed again. A shriek, agonizingly shrill. A thousand nails scratching chalkboards, a hundred kettles boiling inside his skull. His psyche screamed an answer, cried for silence. If she'd only stop, then he could let her go.

But no. Still she screamed, a banshee. It was too much. His wrists jerked and twisted.

Snap.

The scream stopped.

16-Feb-2014 07:26:25 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2014 09:55:01 by Chuk

Enheduanna
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Poller5 said :
...but I find the ending a little weak and odd. The last line robs the sense of finality without particularly carrying any sense of continuation; she screams again because she's killed him, I suppose, but the afterwards is a different story, and a reference to it seems out of place.


I showed the story to a friend--though she's more a poet than a writer--before I submitted it, and I will admit that we juked around the ending about three or four times before settling on what I submitted (which ended up finishing at exactly a hundred words). I liked what I had up (obviously, otherwise I wouldn't have included the line), but it's certainly interesting to see different perspectives of the same thing, and in this I bow to your superior experience in the realms of writing - I can certainly see where you're coming from.

The main thing I was worried about with it was the reader not understanding why the scream began anew - I find it ironically amusing how it now appears that should have been the least of my concerns =P

Thanks for the feedback--seriously, it's awesome to have other people comment in-depth upon your work--and I shall endeavour to get out a second submission when I have time - perhaps later today.

Happily, I know exactly what the prompt is talking about - though there aren't many cicadas around where I am, I have windows open and a fan on directly behind me--level with the back of my neck--and it's still hot.

P.S any references to certain, long-awaited books by renowned fantasy authors are entirely coincidental. I swear it by the Seven!

16-Feb-2014 07:38:48 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2014 07:40:13 by Enheduanna

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Oh God, cicadas - the bane of my existence. I swear when those little devils start singing I just want to scream!

That aside, I appreciate you taking so much time to offer critical feedback to every piece, Poller. Just like you said, 100 words is just enough to satisfy a quick spark of inspiration, and here's to a (hopefully) long and fruitful thread!

16-Feb-2014 08:07:55

Chuk

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Well, I won't promise to do this every week, but I've managed it this time. Here's a different perspective on your pieces, folks!

Cyun – Oddly, the first thing that came to mind was a fetus, self aware at the moment of its birth. The description of the chrysalis and the darkness fueled it perhaps. The screaming is the mother. Of course, some of the wording doesn't fit ("in it, nobody sees." "Normal people scream.&quot ;) , so I was at a bit of a loss. I didn't get the image of an insane asylum or mental hospital until I read Poller's analysis. Whether the opportunity for such different interpretations is what you were going for, it's quite interesting. Once I read it as the thoughts of the mad, I quite liked the poignant final sentence. There's something heart-breaking in it.

Snow – I was never quite sure what was going on in your piece, which made it difficult to take anything from it. I definitely picked up the imagery of the train, with the screaming as the whistle, but I think I took the description "through the air where your head should be" a bit too literally. I was trying to combine a train with decapitation, and I struggled. I like the idea of 'where your head should be' describing the lack of rational thought, but perhaps go for a more abstract word like 'space' or 'void' instead of 'air'? That might help make it less literal.

Poller – I found the juxtaposition of your two pieces particularly remarkable. Of course, sports and violence walk each other down the aisle, but to see the similarities made explicit with so few changes brings it out all the more. Non sports fans have called sports barbaric, and in these stories, I see it. It almost makes me wonder why we love sports so much. And yet there's a beauty in it, too, the struggle of survival replicated now that it's no longer a daily fear. The structure is fantastic in the way it works for both pieces, building towards the image of the crowd at the end.

16-Feb-2014 09:50:49 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2014 09:52:36 by Chuk

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Level – Unfortunately, I wasn't as enthralled with your piece as Poller. I think, perhaps, I read for structure first, and so the emotion didn't hit quite the way it was meant. I too found the final sentence awkward, due to what he mentioned as well as 'set off' sounding too much like a quest to me. I also didn't pick up on the two characters' separate loneliness until it was mentioned in that final sentence, and so I felt I was being told rather than shown. That said, I think you hit the right tone, almost casual, and not beating the reader over the head with what they should be feeling. It's also a very powerful image, and I do really like how it shows that when you love someone and lose them, that pain doesn't completely heal, and how simple things can bring it up front and center.

Sammael – I can't say I really picked up on what's going on. On one hand it seems to be a woman being r*ped while a passerby does nothing. On the other hand it seems to be a more personal interaction ("her hand…pocket of his jeans." I'm not sure how that works when he's across the street.) That said, the imagery is powerful. I particularly like the line about slaying demons with ignorance. I'm not really sure what else to say, except that I think I read this very differently than Poller did.

Serval – So, I don't know if you've watched Firefly, but by Durin's beard, I swear you're describing River Tam's torture by the Alliance. I get the image that the character is being experimented on, much the way N#zis experimented on prisoners or the Japanese experimented on the Chinese in WW II. The character seems so lost in the torture that she barely realizes she's alive, except when she screams when the needles come. She's been trapped so long it seems endless, and she's almost reached a level of detachment. Like Poller, I like the ending imagery of the scream pouring out and escaping.

16-Feb-2014 09:51:07 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2014 09:51:33 by Chuk

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Fysyx – Short and sweet, huh? I'm actually quite impressed with your writing, and how complete this seems to me for how few words you used. I find it an interesting commentary on something similar to Stockholm syndrome, where someone becomes so used to something unpleasant, in this case the screaming, that they expect it and need it. Sometimes a constant, even a miserable one, is a kind of comfort.

Matt – I wish I knew why the scream not being mortal made everything make sense to the narrator. Or why the narrator feels free. I'm not sure you need the bit about the guards, as I think the farmers screaming for their children is very powerful imagery, and the guards dilutes that a bit. I feel like this would work well as a prologue or introduction, as the end is a wonderful cliffhanger or lead in, but it's hard to see this as a complete story. The gold becoming less shiny is a great way to show that things aren't what they seem or that the world is warping. I think if you organized your thoughts a bit more, this could be really intriguing.

James – I hope I didn't come across too rudely when I suggested you shorten the story. I'm glad you took the time to edit it down to the proper length, too. But now you've got too much action and not enough space. It'd be great to get a glimpse into your characters' lives. Why was the girl not killed too? How was this random hiker able to kill a murderer so easily? Didn't the murderer fight back? I think what I'd tell you to do is take a snapshot out of the current story, and enlarge it. You've got interesting, engaging pieces there. You just need to put them under a magnifying class. Show us the narrator's revulsion when he steps from the trees, his rage that someone could do something so awful. Show him trying to comfort the girl. Zoom in a little bit and light up the characters. Readers like to see the scenes unfold.

16-Feb-2014 09:52:17

Chuk

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And I'll go ahead and second Poller's hope that you all come back and write with the new prompt. It's great to see some new faces getting involved around here. I hope you all hang around and keep writing and keep improving. There's lots of good stuff here.

16-Feb-2014 09:53:31

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