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Raschilat

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Right, here.
What fundamentals should we include, Fred?
I was thinking of adding some things to make characters unique, some non-cliché weapons and that...
I was always going to use an example as Gro, who originally started as an insane clone of Sephiroth with a dumb name.
But yeah, I'll work with you. =D
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27-Sep-2008 17:54:54

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Super. Well, I've pulled together some basics from my past writing-help threads, and this is what I have so far for antagonists:
~*~ Antagonists ~*~
The prefix “ant-” means against, and so an antagonist is a force or a character that works against the protagonist, standing in the way of his or her desires or plans. An antagonist can be anything at all, such as weather, fate, the gods, a murderer, a love interest, or even a personal phobia. If your antagonist is a person, he or she is not simply the “bad guy”.
Say your protagonist is indeed a murderer. A simple antagonist could be a police detective trying to catch the murderer and foil his plans for escape. What’s important is that the antagonist, whatever or whoever it is, is working to keep the protagonist from getting what he or she wants.

27-Sep-2008 17:55:57 - Last edited on 27-Sep-2008 17:56:44 by [#O4EM1GWQQ]

Raschilat

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Assuming they're evil:
Also, an antagonist shouldn't be the simplistic crazed lunatic if you really plan on using them. I made this mistake when I first introduced Gro, who ended up becoming one of my most popular characters and won an award for... "Most frightening antagonist", I think? Regardless, the mistake I made was that at first, after developing a... ahem... fetish... with Sephiroth, an insanely popular villain from the Final Fantasy series, I created an image of him with little real character development.
He began as a cannibalistic fallen angel who thought of the world as a median for his hatred. After the first story he starred in, Remedy of Amnesia, ended with his being obliterated by another angel, I really started to think on his character.
For example, now he has a myriad of split personalities: the original Gro is now called "Gro the Elder", and a younger, crazier version of him is "Gro the Reckless". An adult now, he is "Gro the Concise", who is usually unspeaking and tends to end fights as quickly as possible for efficiency. After that is Gro the Disparaged, who is a raging madman bent on killing anything that breathes. Afterward comes Gro the Inexorable, who is merely a "beefed up" version of Gro the Disparaged, Gro the Penance, who is the last form I've really thought on. He is a cunning angel that devises plots for his world (as his power is now large enough that he can do something similar) and loves riddles.
The last three personalities, of which I have no real ideas for yet, are: Gro the Narrator, Gro the Reaper and Gro the Death God.
You see, the schizophrenia explains how much I've worked on his characters and his personality, to the extent where he has nine of them. Even his sword and a special "Anger Mode" type thing is unique.
Try thinking of aspects of your character you can work upon to make him unique. Really, it's not that challenging to create a decent character.
Sorry it's mostly about Gro. XD I thought he was a good example

27-Sep-2008 18:09:38 - Last edited on 27-Sep-2008 18:10:11 by Raschilat

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Yeah, it's a good example. I think we could take mine, and say something like this to bridge over to yours: A mistake that many first-time Runescape authors make is thinking that an antagonist must be a purely evil, sadistic, Satanic demon.

27-Sep-2008 18:15:18

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Lol. :P
Well, with that combination, and a little editing, that gives us this:
~*~ Antagonists ~*~
By Fred Zeppeli and Scout574
The prefix “ant-” means against, and so an antagonist is a force or a character that works against the protagonist, standing in the way of his or her desires or plans. An antagonist can be anything at all, such as weather, fate, the gods, a murderer, a love interest, or even a personal phobia. If your antagonist is a person, he or she is not simply the “bad guy”.
Say your protagonist is indeed a murderer. A simple antagonist could be a police detective trying to catch the murderer and foil his plans for escape. What’s important is that the antagonist, whatever or whoever it is, is working to keep the protagonist from getting what he or she wants.
A mistake that many first-time Runescape authors make is thinking that an antagonist must be a purely evil, sadistic, Satanic demon. An antagonist shouldn't be the simplistic crazed lunatic if you really plan on using them.
I made this mistake when I first introduced Gro, who ended up becoming one of my most popular characters and won an award for... "Most frightening antagonist", I think? Regardless, the mistake I made was that at first, after developing a... *ahem*... fetish... with Sephiroth, an insanely popular villain from the Final Fantasy series, I created an image of him with little real character development.
He began as a cannibalistic fallen angel who thought of the world as a median for his hatred. After the first story he starred in, Remedy of Amnesia, ended with his being obliterated by another angel, I really started to think on his character.

27-Sep-2008 18:20:12 - Last edited on 27-Sep-2008 18:20:57 by [#O4EM1GWQQ]

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For example, now he has a myriad of split personalities: the original Gro is now called "Gro the Elder", and a younger, crazier version of him is "Gro the Reckless". An adult now, he is "Gro the Concise", who is usually unspeaking and tends to end fights as quickly as possible for efficiency. After that is Gro the Disparaged, who is a raging madman bent on killing anything that breathes. Afterward comes Gro the Inexorable, who is merely a "beefed up" version of Gro the Disparaged, Gro the Penance, who is the last form I've really thought on. He is a cunning angel that devises plots for his world (as his power is now large enough that he can do something similar) and loves riddles.
The last three personalities, of which I have no real ideas for yet, are: Gro the Narrator, Gro the Reaper and Gro the Death God.
You see, the schizophrenia explains how much I've worked on his characters and his personality, to the extent where he has nine of them. Even his sword and a special "Anger Mode" type thing is unique. And this is also a good example of how a terribly overpowered, unrealistic character can evolve into a outstanding villain.
Try thinking of aspects of your character you can work upon to make him unique. Creating a decent character as an antagonist isn’t as tauntingly challenging as it may appear to be.

27-Sep-2008 18:20:21

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