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usedxsoul

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MrsGuinevere said :

Oh what does this Stone spirit have to do with the Comp Cape? Glad you asked...
you all don't like skilling,
you don't want to USE the Stone spirits to make Bars & Items from the ores you could have mined, using the stone spirits for DOUBLE ORE drop & faster mining. Because you DON'T like skilling you want the Stone Spirits either removed from Bosses or completely removed from the Game. You say they have NO Value, but the fact is 1 Spirit gives an extra ore which means now you have 2 ores... 2 lights or 2 darks make around 12 k current ge price.

Rune ore was 11K, RUNE ELDER BAR takes 1 dark 1 light and 1 rune bar which takes 1 rune and 1 lum ore …. that's 6.6k, 6.5k, 3.1k and 1.1k = 17.3k each elder Bar made with out a stone spirit double ore drop.... add a x2 ore drop & these VALUES go much higher. Once the hype of the rework wears of the Market will stabilize. But to get the Profit you have to put in the effort in mining & smithing. Which seems something PVm'ers don't like after getting lvl 99.
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Now i know you are a delusional idiot. That **** doesnt even sell for what you are posting here it sells at, the g/e prices arent correct for the actual sell, please educate yourself before continuing to sound like an idiot. In no world is 5 ores comparable to one ore for price, how can you even spew "oh these 5 ores all together is the price of the 1 ore before so its better 3Head" And i know you cant be that dumb, The fact that ore is easily accessible now means there will always be inflation of it, Its not like rune ore before where prices were dictated by alch values, So this is where the market stabalizes.

29-Jan-2019 04:33:27 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2019 04:35:56 by usedxsoul

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Submitted a bug report. Mobile action bar update is a good idea, but I think it's still acting bugging. Cannot queue abilities when it's a single bar and I can toggle between the two. Works fine when backpack is closed and don't have to toggle.
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29-Jan-2019 04:45:08

MrsGuinevere

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usedxsoul said:
[/quote] Now i know you are a delusional idiot. That **** doesnt even sell for what you are posting here it sells at, the g/e prices arent correct for the actual sell, please educate yourself before continuing to sound like an idiot. In no world is 5 ores comparable to one ore for price, how can you even spew "oh these 5 ores all together is the price of the 1 ore before so its better 3Head" And i know you cant be that dumb, The fact that ore is easily accessible now means there will always be inflation of it, Its not like rune ore before where prices were dictated by alch values, So this is where the market stabalizes.[/quote]


I agree to disagree. there is NO reason to call me dumb or whatever else that you posted above
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The Fact remains that these spirits are NOT worthless. I am sure Jagex didn't PLAN on sticking it to PVM'ers, but rather get them involved in mining and smithing ….. just like PVM'ers say we should do bossing for a comp cape. I personally just see the shoe on the other foot and the same argument that is used to get us to kill Bosses is used to get u all to mine and smith.

If that's stupid or delusional as you call me, then maybe you need to contact Jagex on their intend, because as I see it PVM'er really do get treated well. Just because you don't like their intend, don't mean it isn't true. As PVM'ers call on skillers- that's your choice if you want to comp or not. Now you have a choice to suck it up and skill or loose the chance of ANY gp gains from the spirits. Again if you put in the work and time you can make gp, it isn't a get rich quick scheme.

We can ask Jagex to compromise- remove forced Bossing from Comp cape
AND
remove spirits from bossing drops so PVM'ers don't feel forced to skill ! Problem solved for BOTH parties.

29-Jan-2019 05:30:34 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2019 05:31:36 by MrsGuinevere

usedxsoul

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No you are off-base. I really dont care what you have to say, You still dont have to mine to comp, i have no idea where you got this needing to do it too comp, you can still buy ore and bars, which, with how useless the spirits are and how cheap all the ore is, makes it so its less likely anyone would want to mine as it makes you no money, Do you understand? IT MAKES LESS THAN BEFORE THE UPDATE. Period, It didnt make skilling better, it didnt force anyone to skill, And the spirits are just one aspect of the entire thing.

29-Jan-2019 07:35:26

Jennette

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I think stone spirits are out of place? Like monsters can drop em sure but give them to monsters relating to the mining skill or that look like they would drop mining stuff?

The whole issue is caused from ores and metal bars being stable items in the past and good sellable rewards that are eventually backed by high alch value.

When these changed to salvage and spirits, salvage kept the alch value but ore spirits was a entirely new item whos value was not backed by anything except demand aka happy skillers that were enjoying M&S, but this was the biggest problem, there simply isn't enough skillers to use up the once sellable ore spirit surplus.

So market value on spirits dropped dramaticly which made pvmers upset because our ge slots were full of junk that wouldn't sell.

It was a little lazy on jagex's part to not see this coming. They could of removed them from drop tables not related to the mining skill. Then the item wouldn't be so common and it would then probably actually have value and miners could kill these monsters to receive spirits to help them mine more efficiently.

It was a mistake to involve the pvm community in M&S and to think that we would welcome the addition of junk to already not so rewarding boss/slayer monster encounters.

You treated M&S like a world event, Yes it is a nice update but it is not all that epic.. Tone it down please.
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29-Jan-2019 10:21:04

ELITE STACK
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MrsGuinevere said :
usedxsoul said:
Now i know you are a delusional idiot. That **** doesnt even sell for what you are posting here it sells at, the g/e prices arent correct for the actual sell, please educate yourself before continuing to sound like an idiot. In no world is 5 ores comparable to one ore for price, how can you even spew "oh these 5 ores all together is the price of the 1 ore before so its better 3Head" And i know you cant be that dumb, The fact that ore is easily accessible now means there will always be inflation of it, Its not like rune ore before where prices were dictated by alch values, So this is where the market stabalizes.[/quote]


I agree to disagree. there is NO reason to call me dumb or whatever else that you posted above
.

The Fact remains that these spirits are NOT worthless. I am sure Jagex didn't PLAN on sticking it to PVM'ers, but rather get them involved in mining and smithing ….. just like PVM'ers say we should do bossing for a comp cape. I personally just see the shoe on the other foot and the same argument that is used to get us to kill Bosses is used to get u all to mine and smith.

If that's stupid or delusional as you call me, then maybe you need to contact Jagex on their intend, because as I see it PVM'er really do get treated well. Just because you don't like their intend, don't mean it isn't true. As PVM'ers call on skillers- that's your choice if you want to comp or not. Now you have a choice to suck it up and skill or loose the chance of ANY gp gains from the spirits. Again if you put in the work and time you can make gp, it isn't a get rich quick scheme.

We can ask Jagex to compromise- remove forced Bossing from Comp cape
AND
remove spirits from bossing drops so PVM'ers don't feel forced to skill ! Problem solved for BOTH parties.[/quote]


You lose money mining with stone spirits. And I doubt everyone complaining in here about I need my blue charms back.

29-Jan-2019 10:53:41

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