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7th of Reign
Mar Member 2024

7th of Reign

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there is an lms bug that keeps crossbow on long range when leaving lms. it got my account 2 def

so I quest ed 13 def

wasn't aware of the bug and it got me 14 def

essentially an account that's paid over 1k usd for p2p over 10 years is ruined through no fault of my own

with no way to contact help or get resolved

11-Jun-2021 17:32:12

Tassili
Aug Member 2022

Tassili

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Great changes im little concerned about the bow change making it 50% ammo when it only uses crystal shards seems to be to weak. here is the calculations to get 20k charges on the bow and armor.

200-helm
200-chest
200-legs
200-bow

This gives you 20k charges to the armor and 20k shots to the bow
Assuming you are firing bow non stop and taking damage you will be using 3 charges per hitsplat on you for the armor the usage will be upto what the attack speed of the monster is. and then 1 shot fired every 4 game ticks with 50% chance to save a shot. meaning you will use 1 charge per 8 game ticks on average while losing 3 charges from the armor anytime you take damage in multi combat this can add up quickly.

On top of this in order to corrupt the bow its 1k shards already.
Personaly i think the armor should be corruptable for 350 shards per piece to give unlimited charges and then the bow shots can be the real drain on crystal shards, currently as an ironman the shard usage will be massive if i plan to use this bow + armor anywhere say like chambers.

Also in order to corrupt the bow its 1k shards if i wanted to use the bow as is without corruption 1k shards = 100k shots if i corrupted it id have to use it for over 133 hours just to pay for the 1k shard to corrupt it. either make the armor corruptable or return the inf ammo. this wep will be way to pricey to use esp after you hit the stats aswell.

11-Jun-2021 17:46:55 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2021 18:35:10 by Tassili

Daemon Djinn
Apr Member 2016

Daemon Djinn

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I don't know if this has already been said, but I find it weird that Amethyst Darts would do the same max damage as Rune Darts in the blowpipe, while Dragon does 2 max damage more than both.



I say buff the Amethyst Dart to a point that could increase it's max damage to 1 more than Rune Darts.
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11-Jun-2021 17:56:45

Karmafox
Mar Member 2024

Karmafox

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Great suggestions! I love it. I would have liked to see the blowpipe nerf way earlier as a small detail. One question, The Dragonfire Ward is way rarer to get than the (better in stats) Twisted Buckler, right? The price, 7m and 16m says this difference as well. I think equal stats would be fair at least to start with.

11-Jun-2021 19:53:52

Pearlss
Feb Member 2024

Pearlss

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Since there has been some small feedback against making the bow a gauntlet reward, I would like to add that I personally love the idea.

I consider the gauntlet some of the funnest and most engaging combat in osrs. You need no expensive, late game gear—the gauntlet's rewards are barred only by your skill and perseverance to master it. Making the bow of Faerdhinen a gauntlet exclusive only adds to its deserved loot table. On top of this, the aesthetics and lore thematics behind the bow only add to its whole charm! What's more, Song of the Elves becomes an even more accomplished quest to complete given the blade of saeldor and bow of faerdhinen. Prifddinas' rewards give me an excuse the visit the place often and check out how pretty it is.

My only indirect concern is the 50% ammo mechanic on the bow, but not because I do not agree with it, but because so many people are against it, that it complicates quickly transitioning to the ranged rebalancing meta even further, when I would like for it to come out as soon as reasonably possible. I think the team has done such a fantastic job rebalancing—and are so (perhaps too) attentive to the community's concerns—that we have become too complacent, when what we need is to be confident in the rebalancing team and come out with the changes already. This isn't to say the community should be ignored, but that the rebalancing input has become so comprehensive, that we're basically ready to implement it. Let's bite the blowpipe bullet and get it over with. The health of the game will become the better for it.

12-Jun-2021 01:16:02

Nyst3
Feb Member 2024

Nyst3

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I am 100% against it, this rebalance is 100% bad, 0 changes to the weapons that we already have, there is almost no difference between Rune crossbow, dragon crossbow and Armadyl Crossbow which is higher tier and much harder to obtain, Balista still no use except some pvp situations, Dark bow also no use, you need 90 slayer to obtain it and it has 100% no use in pvm, only in low lvl pure pvp.... cool that with the new bow you gonna crush Armadyl set.... cuz new bow will need crystal armour to boost it, also crystal armour need shards, new bow will also need shards , HOW I am supposed to get them if the only good way of getting those crystal is doing Gauntlet. and even If I have BoS, crystal armour, pet I will still need to do gautlet for many hours to get shards for my armour and bow this is B******t, and seems like the bow and the armour set will burn thro shards like crazy...... no everone can go GE buy Crystal seeds/Armour Seed and turn it into shards, Cool that now new Ironman accounts will be forced to use rune crossbow for like 1000 hours + cuz there is not good alternative for it before end game weapons like DHC/TB/New Crystal Bow Even Dragon Crossbow is hard to get without good gear and 90+ combat stats Hasta or DHL and dragon crossbow has almost no difference between Rune Crossbow. Armadyl from Dragon Crossbow has even less...... rly bad update

Players wants good range gear rebalance
Jagex : My offer is nothing. only nerf nerf nerf that bad blowpipe.

12-Jun-2021 08:26:45

Nyst3
Feb Member 2024

Nyst3

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The biggest problem in range meta is not how op blowpipe is. but lack of weapon until end game..... path for every ironman 28 range Bone crossbow > 61 range Rune Crossbow > 85+ range blowpipe (85 range + cuz no one gonna do Zulrah with 70 range or lower) > nothing until like 99 range and end game gear before grinding for end game content like (XoC/Corrputed Gauntlet). that's the problem more than half of lower tier range weapon with 100% no use, Seercull/Dark Bow/ Heavy and light Balista/ Throwing knives/axes.

12-Jun-2021 09:00:28

Chrysamere
Mar Member 2023

Chrysamere

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horrible changes.
its crazy that this is an unpolled change lol.
just give us eoc at this point and legacy mode 2007scape so you can come out with osrs classic edition and make us pay $25 for a sub since you have to "maintain more servers" now.

12-Jun-2021 18:30:29

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