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GreedyRadish

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I don't understand all the hate for Artisan, nor where people are getting the idea that "most players don't want it." The polls clearly show that a majority of players wanted it (10k votes for to 7500 against) It just isn't enough of a majority based on the rules for what percentage is required to put something into the game. So yeah, they are now trying to get more people to vote and to also be informed in the hopes that we, as a player base, will finally accept the awesome update they have put so much time into. I really wish that there weren't so many hateful players in this game. I would love to see this game become better.

This is the main reason that other MMOs don't have people vote on their updates. It is a shame we can no longer trust Jagex to make updates that aren't based on greed due to how bad their customer service is in RS3.
I'm not that Greedy, and I'm not a Radish. I have misled you all.

02-Aug-2014 11:03:27

Skogkatt
May Member 2017

Skogkatt

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GreedyRadish took the words right out my mouth. The majority DO want Artisan & Bounty Hunter. For Artisan, 59% voted yes, and 64% voted yes to Bounty Hunter.

I don't see why people are ranting about re-polls. The Artisan & Bounty Hunter ideas are still not yet complete, and a lot of work has gone into them, so it would be a shame to dismiss them altogether. I'm in favour of both, as I think they'd both make a great addition to Old School RuneScape.

Some reasons for adding Artisan:
- Really adds to undervalued skills, such as Firemaking
- Makes skilling more rewarding through introduction of new items
- Provides new ways to train skills
- Creates tools that can be wielded by skillers
- Introduces new shortcuts into the game (Construction)
- "Resting" through the use of totems
- A new 99 to aim for!

I think the addition of the Artisan skill, whether released as a skill in itself, or just an addition to existing skills, would really rejuvenate, and put the fun back into skilling. We've seen a lot of new updates to combat recently, such as boss pets, new Slayer creatures, and Nightmare Zone, so it would be nice to balance out these combat-orientated updates with some skilling ones too.

Some reasons for adding Bounty Hunter:
- Makes the Wilderness potentially more dangerous
- Shifts focus onto real PKing, not killing vulnerable players
- Shows how much wealth a player is risking

I have fewer reasons for the addition of Bounty Hunter into the game than Artisan, but I believe it is an essential addition that should be implemented into the Wilderness in EVERY world, in order to bring back true PKing. Standard "PKing" these days usually just means killing easy targets, such as green dragon killers, and people gathering resources in the Wilderness. This is NOT what PKing is supposed to be about; it's supposed to be about going into a PvP area, and fighting players who are (more or less) equally prepared for a fight.

02-Aug-2014 13:26:15

Uunikana

Uunikana

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I really don't understand the hate on Artisan. First of all, it isn't just polled again like the majority of you haters are saying, the previous poll stated "Would you like to see the Artisan skill added in to the OSRS in it's current form?" or something among those lines, it's pretty obvious that they've made some adjustments after the last poll failed. They're not shoving it down our throats, the Artisan skill development has taken so much time that it would be a waste to just drop it out without trying to hone it.

The other thing that I don't get is that why would you vote 'no'? Really, just WHY?
The artisan skill doesn't seem to offer anything that's even close to overpowered, so you wouldn't be 'forced' to train it. If you just don't like the concept, you could think of all the people who would like to see this thing happen, you would give players one more reason to stay in OSRS. YOU WON'T LOSE ANYTHING BY VOTING 'YES'. If you vote 'no', you'll just make all the effort that has been put into developing artisan worthless and over the half of the community sad. You won't win anything by voting 'no'. Unless you just like to see other people getting disappointed.

If you vote 'no', would you please tell me why it's better option than 'yes'?

02-Aug-2014 13:27:29 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2014 13:29:52 by Uunikana

Arborpress00

Arborpress00

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Wait, I thought the Bounty Hunter and Artisian Poll already failed?

Now you guys are pretty much rolling the dice over and over (with the odds stacked against you) till you finally get lucky enough for enough new age players to outvote Oldschool players. Ultimately ending with a post such as, "Since so many of you voted yes for..."

Poll Booths - NO, I feel like this is just the start of a bunch of random crap added the terrain of the open landscapes of old runescape. Take a look at how cluttered you guys made RS3 with all the events, mini games and other things.

The people who take the time to read the news or go on the forums to the discuss the future of this game care the most. Not random, once in a while, players who go straight to the game then hop back onto their native Runescape 3.

Bounty Hunter - NO, I want to feel like I'm pking when the game use to be good. Not pking in a game that's a cross between 2007/2009. I want to pk in 2007. Make titled pk worlds more obvious to people.

02-Aug-2014 14:28:38

Me LikeLadys

Me LikeLadys

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Add
Grand Exchange
to
Oldschool Runescape
. That is just a big point what will make Oldschool Runescape much more active. Lots of my friends say, aswell as I do: I have to put too much effort in buying supplys and pk gear. It's just waste of time spending all that time buying it. I just want a fast way (Grand Exchange) to get my supplys fast and easy. And enjoy the game by
pvming
and
pking
. That's the biggest reason why wildy etc is so dead. Look at pre-eoc how fulled the wildy was. At easts, wests, drags, 50s, mb etc.

02-Aug-2014 14:37:41 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2014 14:39:13 by Me LikeLadys

Ein Sam
Jul Member 2018

Ein Sam

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I think a lot of people are misinterpreting the point of "re-polling" Artisan. They are acknowledging that people had problems with certain aspects of Artisan, and they are going to try to change those parts of the skill to address those problems and then re-poll it to see if more people find it agreeable. For example I know a lot of people (myself included) were wary about the Artisan rewards that could give in game exp modifiers, so I wouldn't be surprised to see those rewards nerfed or replaced with something else this time around.

02-Aug-2014 17:47:42

Grakh

Grakh

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"Final artisan blog, as in if that one fails then you'll move on and forget about it? "

sooo yeah right? cuz what happened to not making acceptations jagex? just because mod mat k spend hours of time on artisan doesn't mean the players want it, nor does it mean u should re-poll it, or try and push it through. you guys refuse to repol g/e so don't re-poll artisan, ill just vote no again!

if u insist on the re-poll of artisan, maybe look at my post on it's dev blog raging about how u leave out so many skills!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-Aug-2014 18:00:16

Oblv XB

Oblv XB

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lmfao are you serious? you want to put that ********* version in that'll DO NOTHING for anyone but split the community even more?! wow you're deadset on destroying pking.

The solution i gave is much better than what you're suggesting, even that got voted down 2 times now!

Pvm isn't even risk vs reward anymore ronan, how do you even comment on my thread saying pkers don't deserve to risk a bare minimum of items to have possible chance at making 5k-5m. Like WUT LOL?

IF THERE IS NO INCENTIVE BEHIND TARGETS THAN YOU'RE SADLY MISTAKE TO THINK IT WILL WORK.
UNBAN 3RD AGE MAGE.
BRING BACK JACK!

02-Aug-2014 18:19:15 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2014 18:22:54 by Oblv XB

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