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Overlordasus
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Overlordasus

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I thought the first rule of oldschool runescape is don't mess with old school runescape weapons! Like g maul is a standard.. it needs to be 50/50 and have 2 attacks. Now 60% needed the g maul is useless by itself.... Dont understand this update. Even if 50/50 is OP we don't care. The granite clamp is now going to be OP. why not just leave it alone? A weapon doesn't need to be expensive to be strong. Examining a granite maul "simplicity is the best weapon"

And the standard spell vs ancient. Can ancients teleblock? or use flames of zamorak to lower oppononents magic? You just made standard alot stronger, more then necessary.

Just please stop messing with oldschool like that. Its going to slowly turn into rs3. Also like how you changed lumbridge a bit. Lumbridge was never suppose to be changed at all when oldschool released.

05-Sep-2019 23:58:04 - Last edited on 06-Sep-2019 00:02:17 by Overlordasus

Overlordasus
Mar Member 2024

Overlordasus

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The new granite maul should say "Equip a clamp for the real granite maul"

Packyff said :
"The 'nerf' to the g-maul was needed."

I don't care if you make the greatest argument in the history of all mankind, nothing that existed prior to 2007 should ever be removed, or modified to have its key uses removed under any circumstances ever! I said it about void, and I'll say it about this, even though I almost never use either.

Do not come at us trying to pretend out arguments are negated because they're a "slippery slope fallacy." Jagex saying stuff like "pures are an unintended consequence of exploiting early game mechanics," or "the black d'hide is disproportionately good and should be nerfed" they are saying literally (and no I'm not overusing the word "literally" as is often done today) exactly the same things they said to justify EOC. We didn't just hate EOC because of hot buttons or whatever. We hated it because it ruined classic weapons and got rid of beloved special attacks. They are doing that right now. How are you people so blind? Do you not remember how they sold it as integrity the first time around? "Balancing the combat triangle?" "Balancing equipment based on levels?" Same rhetoric, same updates. The only difference is painfully slow implementation so that we don't get to go out with a bang like we deserve, but instead a painful, depressing pitter.


Love this post. ^ Hes right there is no arguement for nerfing an OLDSCHOOL weapon. the name of the game OLDSCHOOL runescape. We dont want ur forced updates for balances. Its been here the entire time.

06-Sep-2019 00:06:22 - Last edited on 06-Sep-2019 00:16:49 by Overlordasus

Jin_89_rc
Jul Member 2023

Jin_89_rc

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I created my account in 2003, and I played until EOC ruined the game. Having recently returned this year, I found that the game was in a good state. Thoughtful polls were added, new quests were being implemented, and slight changes for the betterment of the community and the game as a whole were being done with the COMMUNITY in mind.

The community is what created this game, and the community is what can end this game...again.

Make no mistake, every single player who has spent any meaningful amount of time in this game realizes that the unpolled changes were done in that way because they would NOT have passed polling with the community player base.

Make no mistake, every single player who experienced the shift from Oldschool RS2 into EOC/RS3 is very aware that you have been trying to implement changes that take the current OSRS model towards that new pay model.

You have had the exceptional luck to reignite a game that you, as a company, killed. It's understandable that you want to find new monetary aspects within it because of the team commitment and growth that it has had, but the way to that is not repeating the same mistakes in slow motion. If you want to grow your playerbase, as well as your ROI, then you need to start investing in the community rather than tinkering with something that has been working for years.

The golden age of Runescape was flush with clans, skillers, roleplayers, young, old, and so much more, and we had legends in the game. We had people that were something to rally around, and even JMods cared enough to come in game and share in those events. Invest in the people playing the game by creating community events, in game contests, special unique rewards that are worth chasing(think a partyhat, it was useless, but it was a goal for so many people).

I, like many other awake and aware players, will have no issue cancelling membership if you continue to release unpolled updates.

Don't kill the game.

We remember-As should you

06-Sep-2019 00:50:24 - Last edited on 06-Sep-2019 00:53:36 by Jin_89_rc

Angel2D4

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Kudos jagex, you've done it once more.. and this is only the beginning. Do you have enough newbies to survive another fallout?

I think the name should be changed.. it's not anywhere near what "old school" was. And never will be again.

But do take your time. It's fun to watch. =)
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

06-Sep-2019 03:54:50

0fflmTeam

0fflmTeam

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Unfortunately this update hits me with a heavy heart. My lvl 65 pure with 82 range, 86 str, 13 pray is now a useless account. I would need to get 60 attack to even be able to stand a chance now in pvp fights, and I play on mobile. I specifically made my pure RedFuryFIVE6 so I could have a chance pking on mobile, because I love pking but no longer have a computer. If you play mobile the game is limited already in pvp fights. I can’t tribrid, or NH pk on mobile, I can’t 3 tick my specials because you don’t let me use the special button near minimap in pvp or wild. My account was originally a obby mauler pure, but I figured hey I should get 50 atk to use a special wep. And now you are nerfing the only weapon I built my account around. Might as well need the dds for 35% spec next. I won’t get 60 attack on my pure because that combat bracket is using overhead prayers and bringing mage melee and range. I can’t do all that on mobile, it’s plainly too hard and not as easy as on a computer. I’ll just stop paying for membership and give up on the account. This is my main and this account can afford bonds through its skills. so JAGEX, you won’t be getting any more money from me, good job. This pure account isn’t worth getting a bond on the main to transfer to the pure as well. Waste of my time.

Also, the main reason people wanted the bulwark nerfed is because people were surviving in rev caves with it. You basically nerfed the #1 escape for people who go to revs. I don’t know if you’re supporting the clan pvp community just so they can get every kill without a hitch or just targeting venez who use the cave for money. Either way it’s disappointing.

I expected so much more from you.

06-Sep-2019 04:24:38

0fflmTeam

0fflmTeam

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Unfortunately this update hits me with a heavy heart. My lvl 65 pure with 82 range, 86 str, 13 pray is now a useless account. I would need to get 60 attack to even be able to stand a chance now in pvp fights, and I play on mobile. I specifically made my pure RedFuryFIVE6 so I could have a chance pking on mobile, because I love pking but no longer have a computer. If you play mobile the game is limited already in pvp fights. I can’t tribrid, or NH pk on mobile, I can’t 3 tick my specials because you don’t let me use the special button near minimap in pvp or wild. My account was originally a obby mauler pure, but I figured hey I should get 50 atk to use a special wep. And now you are nerfing the only weapon I built my account around. Might as well need the dds for 35% spec next. I won’t get 60 attack on my pure because that combat bracket is using overhead prayers and bringing mage melee and range. I can’t do all that on mobile, it’s plainly too hard and not as easy as on a computer. I’ll just stop paying for membership and give up on the account. This is my main and this account can afford bonds through its skills. so JAGEX, you won’t be getting any more money from me, good job. This pure account isn’t worth getting a bond on the main to transfer to the pure as well. Waste of my time.

Also, the main reason people wanted the bulwark nerfed is because people were surviving in rev caves with it. You basically nerfed the #1 escape for people who go to revs. I don’t know if you’re supporting the clan pvp community just so they can get every kill without a hitch or just targeting venez who use the cave for money. Either way it’s disappointing.

I expected so much more from you.

06-Sep-2019 04:25:04

0fflmTeam

0fflmTeam

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Unfortunately this update hits me with a heavy heart. My lvl 65 pure with 82 range, 86 str, 13 pray is now a useless account. I would need to get 60 attack to even be able to stand a chance now in pvp fights, and I play on mobile. I specifically made my pure RedFuryFIVE6 so I could have a chance pking on mobile, because I love pking but no longer have a computer. If you play mobile the game is limited already in pvp fights. I can’t tribrid, or NH pk on mobile, I can’t 3 tick my specials because you don’t let me use the special button near minimap in pvp or wild. My account was originally a obby mauler pure, but I figured hey I should get 50 atk to use a special wep. And now you are nerfing the only weapon I built my account around. Might as well need the dds for 35% spec next. I won’t get 60 attack on my pure because that combat bracket is using overhead prayers and bringing mage melee and range. I can’t do all that on mobile, it’s plainly too hard and not as easy as on a computer. I’ll just stop paying for membership and give up on the account. This is my main and this account can afford bonds through its skills. so JAGEX, you won’t be getting any more money from me, good job. This pure account isn’t worth getting a bond on the main to transfer to the pure as well. Waste of my time.

Also, the main reason people wanted the bulwark nerfed is because people were surviving in rev caves with it. You basically nerfed the #1 escape for people who go to revs. I don’t know if you’re supporting the clan pvp community just so they can get every kill without a hitch or just targeting venez who use the cave for money. Either way it’s disappointing.

I expected so much more from you.

06-Sep-2019 04:25:06

Sei Asagiri
Nov Member 2019

Sei Asagiri

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Nerf to Gmaul is good. Maybe 55% instead of 60%, idk, but this is fine as it is too. Low level pvp was maximum snoozefest of zerorisk nonsense.

Everyone complaining about the pvp updates, but I'm here to complain about the elven chat heads. I VOTED for this, and when I went on my farming run the lady who I pay produce to watch my tree looked EVEN WORSE (her head height looks kinda scrunched or something?) than after the first update. I chatted around with some other elven NPCS and they looked alright, but they were all guys. I haven't checked any of the other elven ladies, but this is kinda crazy...

06-Sep-2019 06:39:29 - Last edited on 06-Sep-2019 06:41:09 by Sei Asagiri

Spinolyp

Spinolyp

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Great PvP update. Shouldn't have a T50 weapon that presents high reward without high risk. People complaining saying "What about dds?" Well the DDS is T60 - also it doesn't hit potential 3x 35-40s in a single tick... Quit complaining and just go pay more for your damn upgrade. If us as PvMers have to pay for charges on our equipment on high level equipment then you as PvPers should also pay for your MOST USED high lv gear too.

"Waaah Jagex is turning this into RS3 with more unpolled changes/" They made it very clear they would do unpolled changes for the integrity of the game. The maul has been an issue for quite a long time.

If you can't fork over some GP for its overpoweredness then you shouldn't be PvP'n with it. Simple as that - go to your next cheapstake weapon - ddp++

06-Sep-2019 06:50:24

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