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mike is here

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Yep, soaking in osrs is bad


Why is it bad? It's not adding soaking to every piece of armour. This an effect only with a expensive ammy and expensive set of armour that requires 70 def. Explain concretely why damage soaking in this regard is "bad". It's a defensive upgrade alongside a plethora of offensive additions to the game that will help barrows retain some value (and most likely gain some).

01-Sep-2013 17:10:06 - Last edited on 01-Sep-2013 17:11:24 by mike is here

Duckt

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I like it. Although IMO the Staff of Light being dropped by K'ril Tsuroth is a bit wacky considering it looks very similar to a staff version of the Saradomin Sword o.O But overall looking forward to this, and I'm glad that the dev team looked at all the bugs in the last version (especially safespotting) and is going to fix those :)

EDIT: Oh but that amulet idea is a bad one. Leave barrows, sets were just as used pre-GWD as post.

01-Sep-2013 17:23:13 - Last edited on 01-Sep-2013 17:25:46 by Duckt

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Ash, the pj timer is a stupid idea, the pk community doesn't want it


Are you stupid? People said they want this since the release of the wilderness on the other runescape in 2012

01-Sep-2013 17:29:21

Mod Ash

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I've just been reading through the thread, from where I left off on Friday night. Thanks for your posts, everyone. While I won't be able to answer every question individually from the last 20-ish pages, I'll address some of the bigger topics:

Adamant bars:

Quite simply, we think it'd be bad for the game if we introduce such a big source of the bars. It's not okay to be able to camp there all day and return with a massive stack of adamant bars; miners ought to have a reasonable chance to find a market for the adamantite and the coal required to smelt it. So, if you vote to bring back the GWD, you're voting for it with a nerfed version of that feature.

I would hope between the other monsters, the bosses, the new weapons and armour, etc. there are enough other things in the GWD to make the dungeon remain desirable overall.

So what we're offering you in the poll is a version of the GWD, taken from 2007, with various launch bugs fixed, hopefully fewer server load issues, and no massive over-supply of adamant bars. You'll be free to vote Yes or No to this.

We're inviting you to customise various bits of the dungeon via additional polls, such as letting you decide whether or not you want the boss doors to be one-way, or letting you request additional weapons to counter-balance the melee focus of the dungeon's main weapons. However, the adamant bar drop was badly balanced in 2007, and it'd be badly balanced if we did it again; we made it clear as early as March that we'd have to address bugs and game integrity issues as they arose.

Damage soaking amulet:

The hitpoints scale goes up to 99; the max hits of weapons are creeping higher and higher, especially if we launch the GWD with high-end weapons in it. Good armour makes you less likely to take any damage at all, but sometimes you'll still take the brunt of a hitsplat that wipes off much of your total health. That's why the amulet was designed for protection, not for improving your offensive capabilities.

And, since various people have said they don't want the GWD because it'd devalue Barrows kit, the amulet was designed to fit alongside Barrows kit.

It's okay if you don't want it. If Barrows kit eventually does become seriously devalued, we'll be open to running future polls with alternative ideas for addressing the matter. If it's just a fuss over nothing, and Barrows kit continues to do just fine, we won't have to.

Staff of Light melee stats:

The SoL was a one-handed weapon before, and that's what we had in mind when we wrote in the blog about " a magic weapon similar to the Staff of Light ". It had fairly high melee stats, hence the Attack requirement.

If it doesn't pass on this occasion, we can certainly offer a different version.

Just in general:

Even if you understand every aspect of combat...
... and know exactly how the game should be designed...
... and can propose a great solution to every problem...
... your ideas will still risk being lost if you post them in great big paragraphs with sentences that run on and on!

Try to structure your ideas clearly. No-one should be judging your ideas just by your English spelling and grammar, but you can still try to use clear formatting and a bit of structure to help make it all readable.

01-Sep-2013 17:37:00 - Last edited on 01-Sep-2013 17:39:48 by Mod Ash

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Does this mean we will get spins and solomons store ^?


No..?
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01-Sep-2013 18:15:01

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I dont know everything,
But. . . sorry for walls, and run on sentences.

In regards to AotD, with the maximum hit creeping up ingame, i dont quite understand. You can achieve a higher defense bonus in many barrows setups, then you could in equivalent bandos setups.

For instance Dharoks>Bandos+Nez
Or full Torags was go to tank gear in many situations literally forever. (minus hammers.)

If i may ask, you have been around for quite some time as a mod, what was the original thoughts for the specials behind Torag's, Karil's, and to some extent, Ahrim's?

Torag's and karil's are virtually useless in any regular situation. Especially when compared to Guthan's, Dharok's, and Verac's.
I always found Ahrim's special to activate quite often, and to be usefull in deep wilderness pkining draining an opponents strength quite quickly. But its usefulness was quite limited.

Verac's, Guthan's, And Dharok's have alway's maintained usefulness, both in pvp, slayer, and bossing. giveing an additional 20% soak ontop of this would only make these already good sets of gear more powerful, (especially Dharoks in pvp)

Since these sets of gear are already quite good and where known to have maintained there usefulness in rs2, would it not make more sense, to look into giving Karil's and Torag's Usefull set effect, And possibly, modifying Ahrims staff to make it 1 handed, or modifying its set effect in some way? this would be a suitable compromise, instead of creating an item that causes direct damage soak, especially with gear that is known to be used for bossing, acquiring hard to get item's, and moderately high risk pking.

Or is there a reason this isn't currently an acceptable solution?
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Well back to Pc.

01-Sep-2013 18:17:18

Crag Hacks

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@ Mod ash

Is > Staff of Light < going to have 15% Magic Damage just as it was released in the Main Game?

Can we add Focus sight to Spiritual Warrior's drop table, and Hexcrest to Spiritual Ranger's drop table? Spiritual Mages are the only Spiritual monster in GWD worth killing because of it's Dragon Boots/Add-on. Adding Black mask equivalents to these two currently useless monsters will balance PvM more and give the Slayer skill more rewards.

01-Sep-2013 18:23:45 - Last edited on 01-Sep-2013 18:24:47 by Crag Hacks

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Mod Ash


Cant we vote for 50 bank spaces if thats what the community wants? 24 isnt much...


What do you need 50 more bank spaces for? I'm having a hard time filling 1/2th part of my bank :O

01-Sep-2013 18:28:45

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