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Demon of W97

Demon of W97

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''Ye thats the irony of me saying that. In EOC the dps for the combat triangle is close to even. I usually dont say Go back to EOC normally. i agree in most debates its an ignorant move to say.''
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If it's ignorant to say it in one scenario it's ignorant in all scenarios, don't do that whole double standard thing here.

If players shouldn't go back to EOC if they want GWD they shouldn't go back to EOC if they want combat to be more balanced.

Just because you don't see a problem with the combat system of OSRS doesn't mean others share your view.

Not all of us want to walk around in Bandos carrying an AGS, some of us like Range or Magic and shouldn't have to have our combat styles turn into Chinning and High-Alching just because those're the main reasons left to use the skills, we should have a fair advantage in combat as well, or at least not a massive disadvantage.

Seriously, if GWD is implemented go try to get drops with Magic in any boss room, or Range in any room besides Kree'ara's. You won't be able to out-damage melee users enough times to get anything but EXP.

31-Aug-2013 09:20:26

Hi_Im_Mobbin

Hi_Im_Mobbin

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''Ye thats the irony of me saying that. In EOC the dps for the combat triangle is close to even. I usually dont say Go back to EOC normally. i agree in most debates its an ignorant move to say.''
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If it's ignorant to say it in one scenario it's ignorant in all scenarios, don't do that whole double standard thing here.

If players shouldn't go back to EOC if they want GWD they shouldn't go back to EOC if they want combat to be more balanced.

Just because you don't see a problem with the combat system of OSRS doesn't mean others share your view.

Not all of us want to walk around in Bandos carrying an AGS, some of us like Range or Magic and shouldn't have to have our combat styles turn into Chinning and High-Alching just because those're the main reasons left to use the skills, we should have a fair advantage in combat as well, or at least not a massive disadvantage.

Seriously, if GWD is implemented go try to get drops with Magic in any boss room, or Range in any room besides Kree'ara's. You won't be able to out-damage melee users enough times to get anything but EXP.

IF u wanna kill bosses wit mage go EOC. its the perfect game for ya. Its exactly wat ur looking for tbh. Oldschool not so much. Every player has the same 3 combat styles . If u wanna pvm wit mage maybe kill some Rex at dks if its that important to u.

I choose to kill bosses the most efficient way, using the best combat type for that boss. Not cry on the forums why i cant kill Armadyl boss wit melee. Dont limit urself.

Players like you over many years is why EOC was a forced idea on the players. Jagex kept giving into the 1% crybabies on the forums. That Combat was broken. Jagex gave the 1% what they wanted n 90% quit EOC.

Andrew Gower was a genius who fully understood the long term affects of updates.I'm a strong believer that the combat system is 90% perfect and accept that tryin to get any closer to perfect would destory the game

31-Aug-2013 09:32:40

Hi_Im_Mobbin

Hi_Im_Mobbin

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Seriously, if GWD is implemented go try to get drops with Magic in any boss room, or Range in any room besides Kree'ara's. You won't be able to out-damage melee users enough times to get anything but EXP.

I dont think u could get any closer to EOC then wanted matched dps mage vs melee on bosses. Seriously youre playing the wrong game. Your words, not mine.

31-Aug-2013 09:36:32

D33znutz2

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i agree on everything except the addy bars and the 'amulet of the damned'.

didn't you guys said that every chance to osrs would be polled? i wouldn't mind aviansies dropping noted or unnoted bars, i just want to see it polled first

and i don't think bandos armour wil devalue barows gear. seriously, why do people think that? guthans will be 8-9m because slayers use it, dharoks will be 3m because pkers use it, veracs will be 3-4m because the helm and skirt are very usefull for bossing, and torags will be 1m because of its defence. bandos will be very expensive, and players will
use barrows armour for its defence and its price.

that bein said, i hope gwd passes the poll so we have some new content and bosses to try out, and i've been grinding slayer for a reason :p

31-Aug-2013 09:39:27

RangeSlaer

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@ NinjaxxShark
So basically, what your saying is, you thought up an idea, because its highly abusable, instead of changing it, you will think of a way of modifying it to make it fit to your scenario, and to be honest, making the "Armadyl Crossbow" hit higher it kind of a boring spec anyways, do you have any idea how many times jagex has reused the spec double hit, or increased damage hit? Id much prefer something like the suggestion i saw a while back, useing 100% of the spec bar to make the next 6shots fire at an increased rate of speed, or at the cost of 60% of the spec bar, casting a an entangle, or turning off and disabling all protection prayers for 10 seconds . . .. . . something semi original, and not causing a bolt spec, which has alot of situations where it is slightly to highly abusable, and while there are ways to nerf ruby bolts (e) specifically for that weapon #1, that would be cheap and ********, #2, that would probably require an engine team which osrs doesnt have right know.
@ Demon of W97
What i ment by that, is currently, mages can from a pvp standpoint (sorry thats all i really think about, from the moment i hit cb lvl 96 i dont really plan on pvming again) have the ability to tb there targets, and snare them, to freeze them, heal themselves and have all these abilties,and you can still level range to 99 w/o gaining a cb level. And to be honest even if people gave me a spec weapon that reduced melee damage, i would never use it, mage is a support skill to be used in addition to another skill i would every time when using melee pull a dps weapon, same with range, or even with mage, choose to use the time to cast another spell, for this reason, i would take the dps increase. Mage is made to brid like condcting an orchestra, the best thing we could do for it is to introduce surge spells, and possible have krill drop eather A. a version of zuriels staff, or B. some type of "Miasmic Rune".
Know its 340am i gotta sleep
RangeSlaer

31-Aug-2013 09:43:03

RangeSlaer

RangeSlaer

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And fyi, i always did fight caves with ancients just saying. . . . forget italy rock stood in the middle and tanked that it man, Range/mage switched with some blood burst and ahrims and a dfs, who needed safing? And also, Bandos can be done with osrs mage, ive seen it. I wouldnt recommend it as a way of commonly doing it, but it can technically be done with safe spots, which should be left in, there not polling that eather . . . . . . Hmm, 1v1 if they brought back rigour, im willing to bet a ranged tank might be able to give melee a run for there money at graador, ruby (e) to Diamond (e) switch . . . Im hoping for a rigour vote, but theres alot of ignorant people out there idk if it would pass . . .

31-Aug-2013 09:48:03 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2013 09:54:36 by RangeSlaer

Hi_Im_Mobbin

Hi_Im_Mobbin

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i agree on everything except the addy bars and the 'amulet of the damned'.

didn't you guys said that every chance to osrs would be polled? i wouldn't mind aviansies dropping noted or unnoted bars, i just want to see it polled first

and i don't think bandos armour wil devalue barows gear. seriously, why do people think that? guthans will be 8-9m because slayers use it, dharoks will be 3m because pkers use it, veracs will be 3-4m because the helm and skirt are very usefull for bossing, and torags will be 1m because of its defence. bandos will be very expensive, and players will
use barrows armour for its defence and its price.

that bein said, i hope gwd passes the poll so we have some new content and bosses to try out, and i've been grinding slayer for a reason :p

The oldschool Jmod team are making a perfect move wit the aviansies drop. I can imagine there was discussion between all the OSRS jmods on this call. IT was then agreed there would be to much long term negativity on the game letting the addy bars continue to be noted.

Would be 20 bots in every world eventually. The addy bars would be turned into addy pl8's to be alched for gp. Thus adding a decent amount of inflation from one aspect of the game. Inflation from players botting the game which is even worse.

Even if we had a bot free game (dreaming) then the 4 noted addy bar drop is still rewarding players for a very low amount of work/effort compared to how hard skillers/pvmers currently work for 300k gp/hr.

Either way making them not noted is the best move. Nice way to meet in the middle. You could still make a decent amount banking every 20 bars or so. An amount i think would be close to fair considering how hard one would train to get there. Which is not much training at all.

31-Aug-2013 09:51:11 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2013 09:52:53 by Hi_Im_Mobbin

RangeSlaer

RangeSlaer

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@ Demon of W97
And fyi, i always did fight caves with ancients just saying. . . . forget italy rock stood in the middle and tanked that it man, Range/mage switched with some blood burst and ahrims and a dfs, who needed safing? And also, Bandos can be done with osrs mage, ive seen it. I wouldnt recommend it as a way of commonly doing it, but it can technically be done with safe spots, which should be left in, there not polling that eather . . . . . . Hmm, 1v1 if they brought back rigour, im willing to bet a ranged tank might be able to give melee a run for there money at graador, ruby (e) to Diamond (e) switch . . . Im hoping for a rigour vote, but theres alot of ignorant people out there idk if it would pass . . .

And know i really do have to go to bed.
RangeSlaer
Ill check back on the thread 2moro, out for know yall.

31-Aug-2013 09:55:56 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2013 09:56:14 by RangeSlaer

Bright Danny

Bright Danny

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''Ye thats the irony of me saying that. In EOC the dps for the combat triangle is close to even. I usually dont say Go back to EOC normally. i agree in most debates its an ignorant move to say.''
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If it's ignorant to say it in one scenario it's ignorant in all scenarios, don't do that whole double standard thing here.

If players shouldn't go back to EOC if they want GWD they shouldn't go back to EOC if they want combat to be more balanced.

Just because you don't see a problem with the combat system of OSRS doesn't mean others share your view.

Not all of us want to walk around in Bandos carrying an AGS, some of us like Range or Magic and shouldn't have to have our combat styles turn into Chinning and High-Alching just because those're the main reasons left to use the skills, we should have a fair advantage in combat as well, or at least not a massive disadvantage.

Seriously, if GWD is implemented go try to get drops with Magic in any boss room, or Range in any room besides Kree'ara's. You won't be able to out-damage melee users enough times to get anything but EXP.

I agree with you.

MAgic and ranged are an independant skill on their ownand should not always be outclassed by melee.

I don;'t care what others say. "Go play EOC" How about no?

EDIT:

It would actually made sense if bandos or zamorak bosses were weak to magic. I.E Melee user and a demon (both weak to magic)

31-Aug-2013 10:00:13 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2013 10:02:14 by Bright Danny

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