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PeCay

PeCay

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I think that people who do not PK and does'nt really care about the F2P PKing should not vote for this, I'ts not that big of a deal economicle, please let us who really miss the old F2P pking have it back! Would mean alot!

21-Mar-2013 18:28:09

suckling

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I think you should wait 6 months before making polls. That way you get the opinion of people who are actually going to pay for OSRS.

I was willing to pay for this service but if you keep making changes I'll be gone before you start charging extra.

21-Mar-2013 18:38:58

Ky-Hillbilly

Ky-Hillbilly

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I think that people who do not PK and does'nt really care about the F2P PKing should not vote for this, I'*s not that big of a deal economicle, please let us who really miss the old F2P pking have it back! Would mean alot!


I do not PK but voted yes the first time and ill vote yes the next time to.
So watch who you tell not to vote.
skilles have a lot to gain from F2P worlds( like we sell you all food and pots)

21-Mar-2013 18:40:54

Xxjenn1
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Xxjenn1

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From the offered content extensions, I would definitely support Achievement Diaries and ZMI.

The latter especially because no XP/h rate achievable there is overpowered, so long as players can just stand around any one altar and buy their XP in form of essence runners and/or bots. Something like ZMI would be beneficial for the general competition and give an edge to solo and DIY players alike.

Another alternative would be just banning trading inside and in close proximity of RC altars. I don't think it was ever intended to have one actual runecrafter [with the required RC level] supplied by many essence runners creating huge amounts of runes in quick succession and thusly devaluing the rune prices and efforts of players who achieved their levels and run their essence all by themselves.

21-Mar-2013 18:43:57

Strus
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Strus

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While I thank you for clearing up the confusion surrounding the f2p pking world, I think the worlds should have been added to the game in the first place. They were a part of the game back then, so why you even making a poll about it?

As for the questions in the next poll, I think they would all be great updates to the game. These are all updates that players have been suggesting on the forums, so I see no issues here.

Lastly, the future content polls...oh, where to start. How about with ZMI? I liked the idea of ZMI altars; it offered an alternative to abyss crafting. The experience gains were faster than other methods of rcing, but at the cost of huge profits. This is a good example of a BALANCED update: faster experience, but less profit. I feel that the varrock achievement diary would also be a good addition to the game, and I see no reason why players would object to this. It gives you a sense of all the various tasks that can be completed in Varrock. I'm sure players also wouldn't object to quests being added to the game provided that they don't offer overpowered items as rewards or hundreds of thousands of exp. I would be happy to see new quests that aren't in EoC as well, just make sure the rewards are balanced.

And now for the controversial topic: God Wars Dungeon. Personally, I'm going to vote no to God Wars. While the boss fights were challenging and enjoyable at times, I feel that the addition of overpowered armour and weapons is what led to the eventual demise of the "Golden Era" of this game. Before GWD we had dragon armour and Barrows armour. While more expensive and offering less defence bonuses than Barrows armour, dragon was still highly sought after for its good defence bonuses and lack of degradability. This gave value to KQ hunting. Then you had Barrows armour which was cheaper and offered better defensive stats than Dragon, but would degrade after a while and require players to fix it in order to continue using it.

21-Mar-2013 18:46:12

Strus
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Strus

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Then along came GWD and you get armour that's the best of both worlds. Being more affordable and offering better defensive and strength bonuses than Dragon armour while not degrading, seriously hurt the prices of dragon chains. And thus, once dragon chain crashed, players ceased to hunt the KQ for profit and it became dead content. If GWD is readded (which it most likely won't due to lack of support) Jagex really need to rethink the stats and/or the rarity of the drops. There ARE good ways of making new updates without creating dead content in the process.

Now to the issue of godswords. I honestly believe adding Godswords to the game was a huge mistake. Not only did it kill the legit pking community, it also introduced the "rushing" community. Why fight someone in a death match if you can just rush them with AGS specs and often get the kill? No weapon should have such an overpowered special attack take up only 50% of the spec bar, while constantly being able to dish out 70+ specs. Not to mention the absurdly low requirement to weild godswords...only 75 attack, are you kidding me?

As for the other godswords...they are almost completely useless when compared to the AGS. The bandos GS spec lowered the enemies defence based on the amount of damage that was dealt, but why would anyone need to lower their ennemy's defence if the AGS spec could easily rip through 99 defence as if it were paper? The ZGS and SGS were equally as useless. Why would anyone want to use a spec that freezes their opponent if they could instead use ice barrage in combination with the deadly AGS? While the SGS had its uses in healing during slayer or boss fights, why would you prefer to heal against an ennemy rather than potentially hitting 70+ damage to it?

21-Mar-2013 18:46:30 - Last edited on 21-Mar-2013 19:10:56 by Strus

Strus
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Strus

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Once again IF the GWD is added we need to see some major fixes here. Increase the level requirement to weild a godsword, and maybe think about adding a HIGH level quest that unlocks the ability to weild godswords, similar to the way that Monkey Madness unlocks the ability to weild Dragon scimitars. I would also like to ask Jagex to rethink the specs of all the godswords. Give them all a use! I don't want to see one godsword being far superior to the others. Or if you want to take the easy way out, then simply make the AGS spec take up 100% of the spec bar.

Two more issues surrounding the GWD: dragon boots and aviansies. Personally I would like to see dragon boots. They weren't overpowered and offered another incentive for players to train slayer, besides only whip drops. And my last issue with the GWD was the aviansies. In the main game, bots have completely taken over the aviansies meaning that players who want to kill Kree'arra have a hard time getting the kc. In my opinion, the 4 addy bar drop is too frequent and needs a nerf to either 1 or 2 bars, or simply make the drop more rare. They offered nothing but give bots a new way to earn money to fuel their RWTing.

That's it for my short rant about GWD. Personally, even if you made most of these changes I would still vote no since GWD is not really a part of the Old School feel. I simply wished to offer you some suggestions since Mod Mat K did say that he wanted feedback over one word answers. ;)

21-Mar-2013 19:11:22 - Last edited on 21-Mar-2013 19:25:12 by Strus

Wurmbait

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I support any Achievement Diary that was implemented around the OSR date. If there is something in the diary of an area that is no longer in OSR(summoning) remove that task or exchange it with something suitable to OSR.

I am NOT a PK'er, do not want anything to do with PK'ers but if they are allowed to do their thing away from non-PKer's i am for it.

Never did anything in EOCscape in the GWD so no comment there other than if an item would be overpowered, nerf it down or do not put in GWD.

I don't see what the fuss is about the ZMI altar. It is a fun place to RC, you don't know what you will get and it is NOT Runespan.
Support for ZMI.

21-Mar-2013 19:13:36

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