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Sir Tankladd

Sir Tankladd

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You realize that people already do this with bonds in RS3, right? They just transfer the gold between the 2 games, which is easy enough, as long as you don't get scammed by the other person. They're only offering this because many people have asked and a lot of players already buy bonds by either playing RS3 for a few hours or transferring gold from this game to that game to purchase a bond (I saw a guy who did that while woodcutting yesterday).
Then let them do it. Buying a bond is no different then going out and buying gold from gold farmer, besides the fact that buying from a gold farmer is cheaper, and it's bannable. There will always be that risk of trading over, so a lot of people will just choose to use the cheaper and easier method of buying from gold farmers. Rather than letting the RWTers win, we should buckle down on the accounts who are buying gold right now, not introduce a new method to let them do it.

18-Jul-2014 15:58:21

Itchy Scalp
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Itchy Scalp

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I really hate the idea of bonds.

The idea of someone being able to spend real world money for gp is something that I will forever be against. One of the greatest thins about old runescape was that players could be a part of a world away from a world where those that have money have the upper hand. If bonds are introduces those select few that decide to buy their bonds and sell them for gp get boosted in the game with no in game effort. want to spend X amount of gp to get X skill to X level? Buy some bonds and sell them.

No, I remember the days when real world trading was against the rules, and I remember when Jagex changed their rule to suit their micro-transactions. Forget EOC, micro-transactions and real world trading (bonds) made me loose complete faith in Jagex at the time (and stops me from playing Main Runescape now), something I thought I would never get back if it wasn't for this old school team.

OSRS holds the ethos of a long forgotten time when players that were good at a game and went through in game hardship, struggling to learn all that they can with players on an equal footing and were rewarded for their efforts. An ethos that is non-existent in Main Runescape.

I can never vote for bonds, under any name. The pain of what they represent is just far to great.

"But people are exchanging their OSRS gp for RS gp now and using bonds that way". And you know what I say to that? Make it against the rules for people to do it. Send them to the black hole and lock the disk of returning.

I'm rambling... Overall, bonds go against everything this game represents, and what they represent brings back painful memories.

#SayNoToBonds

18-Jul-2014 15:59:50 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2014 16:00:36 by Itchy Scalp

Sir Tankladd

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Why can't you accept? In other games you can do the same. You buy something in-game thing from the developer via cash,and you sell it for GP.

If you are poor it's not my problem.
Trash like you are part of the reason we don't want bonds. This is OSRS, the old game. If you want something easy, go play RS3 and buy bonds there.

18-Jul-2014 16:03:26

E Mc73

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Credit where credit is due, though. Thank you to the jmods for polling this, rather than putting it in and claiming it's to fight bots. Makes me feel safer that things that would induce rs3-esque changes will always be polled.

18-Jul-2014 16:03:51

Abtronic X

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Why can't you accept? In other games you can do the same. You buy something in-game thing from the developer via cash,and you sell it for GP.

If you are poor it's not my problem.
Trash like you are part of the reason we don't want bonds. This is OSRS, the old game. If you want something easy, go play RS3 and buy bonds there.

bonds dont provide xp just cash. I don't play legacy because of its graphics.

18-Jul-2014 16:04:30 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2014 16:05:16 by Abtronic X

Wee
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Wee

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Why can't you accept? In other games you can do the same. You buy something in-game thing from the developer via cash,and you sell it for GP.

If you are poor it's not my problem.

You are just flamebaiting now, seems like actual arguments dont cut it :) playing rs since 1976, 40 year vet cape soon

18-Jul-2014 16:04:56

Rawrylol

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I'm really in two minds about bonds.

First of all, you have the positives; people can buy memberships with them and Jagex actually makes more profit from bonds than a regular membership. Plus, people already buy OSRS gold for real life money, whether they do it from an illegitimate source or they transfer the wealth from RS3 where they've already sold bonds, so all this would do is hopefully reduce the amount of bots AND cut out the scamming middle man when transferring gold between OSRS and RS3.

But then, of course you have the worrying negatives; I'm personally not too worried about people buying thousands of bonds and selling them to build a nice bank, because that's ridiculous, but I'm more worried that those bonds devalue the time that people have spent making money so far on OSRS. Plus, it does make it easier to get buyable xp.

However, I then thought about that last sentence and wondered how much easier it actually makes it. Considering that the current exchange rate between OSRS and RS3 is 1:6 or so, and bonds cost around 6mil on RS3, that means that a bond would cost 1mil on OSRS roughly. If it's more than that, it'd be better value to swap the gold back from RS3. If it's less than that, RS3 players would do the opposite.

1 bond costs £3 in real life terms, meaning 1mil OSRS is £3. That doesn't sound too bad, but then when you consider that Bandos Tassets and Chestplate would be equal to £75 worth of bonds and an AGS is worth over £180, it really starts to hit home how much money people would have to pour into them to abuse them.

Look at Prayer, that's around 105mil using dragon bones I believe. 105mil is equal to £315. How many players are really going to spend £315 on Runescape, just for 99 Prayer? And it's similar with all the other buyables that are actually worth something (Not cooking, fletching etc). In reality, I really don't think there'd be many people there to abuse it, so I think the positives outweigh the negatives.

18-Jul-2014 16:05:37

Itchy Scalp
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Itchy Scalp

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It should never be about if someone is poor or not. Everyone should be equal in this game.

It bothers me that so many games do this now, along with micro-transactions. OSRS is a haven that should keep to its 'Old School' ethos.

18-Jul-2014 16:05:52

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