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OldMongoose

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Do it like this and I am for it:

-Offer bonds at all banks in Runescape for purchase with 07scape gold
-You can buy it and redeem for membership
-You CANNOT buy bonds with ReaL cash and exchange for any gold,items etc.

"i am with free on this one"

otherwise i think bonds might really upset a lot of people and its such a new economy for people to get a wrong impression already


You are trying to say that Jagex should offer free membership to everybody? After all, who wouldn't pay 1 mil gp a month to get a free membership? How exactly will Jagex make money in this scenario?

22-Jul-2014 19:52:00

MommyBugg

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Very rarely do i post, but i find myself at a place where i can no longer remain silent. When Jagex evolved the combat system i quit, i chose not to play with the new system. i'm old, i don't play many games and the ones i do i have played for a very long time.

Old school brought me back to a game i loved, and other than the necessity of starting over after 7 years of work, i enjoy the game still. I understand the desire to keep old school "pure". but... please!

Clear back when i started playing there were people screaming about new content, how it was going to ruin the game, "if you add this im quitting", and a lot more BS. Change is inevitable or the game stagnates. the new skill proposed is fine, its merely a slayer for skillers. It adds new content and creates something to rejuvinate the skillers desire to play.

Bonds? not so sure about those, there are far too many people who are driven to acquire items rather than play the game. And the community is showing that mindset. But whether they add bonds or not, the game will go on, and people will still play, and those who are so set against change will continue to complain.

However, by adding bonds, Jagex at least gains a small bit more control over rwt, and that money everyone is so willing to throw into their success, winds up back in our game.

22-Jul-2014 20:08:11

Qubeley

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No support at all.

While RWT is a problem, it was also a problem while oldschool was current RuneScape. I'd rather find another solution to combating RWT that doesn't involve polluting oldschool with the scourge of microtransactions found in RS3 and other modern MMOs.

22-Jul-2014 21:03:33

The TomBomb
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I don't wanna see Bonds in OSRS.

Double Edit: The reason i don't wanna see bonds in OSRS, is because you can pay IRL money to achieve goals in OSRS faster.


You already can with people buying gold from other players. At least this way the IRL money would be going to help make Old School Runescape better and not just help make another sparc mac buy another car.

22-Jul-2014 21:51:41

The TomBomb
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money irl always had an adventage in the game since day one,a good example is free to play vs member,members pay each month and got better ways to make money.
in theory this is the method of bonds too,paying to get an adventage in game.


Members pay for the option to do work to level up.

Buying bonds converts to instant GP with no work at all.

Your argument is equivocal and erroneous.


You forgot about the part about how nearly half the playerbase are ALREADY buying runescape gold, except they are doing it illegally and it's hurting the game. At least with bonds, it will go towards runescape directly helping pay for updates AND deal a big blow to the RWT community that helps make the game worse.

22-Jul-2014 21:55:20

Nikolas10181

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money irl always had an adventage in the game since day one,a good example is free to play vs member,members pay each month and got better ways to make money.
in theory this is the method of bonds too,paying to get an adventage in game.


Members pay for the option to do work to level up.

Buying bonds converts to instant GP with no work at all.

Your argument is equivocal and erroneous.



You forgot about the part about how nearly half the playerbase are ALREADY buying runescape gold, except they are doing it illegally and it's hurting the game. At least with bonds, it will go towards runescape directly helping pay for updates AND deal a big blow to the RWT community that helps make the game worse.



You clearly do not realize that people will buy the gold from sites will not bother to use Jagex's system to buy gold because whats the point? They can get it cheaper from the site so if anything Jagex will actually make less profit because what will happen is people will transfer money from Eoc to get money in 07 to buy their bonds because it's way easier to make money in Eoc than 07 so in reality this would actually hurt jagex rather than help them.
Bring memes to OSRS general forum

22-Jul-2014 22:16:19 - Last edited on 22-Jul-2014 22:16:56 by Nikolas10181

Qubeley

Qubeley

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Let's be real here. The entire argument that this will somehow get rid of RWT is a farce. This is nothing but Jagex-sanctioned RWT with the only difference being that they won't ban you for using it. We need not ruin the oldschool version of RuneScape with this ridiculous moneygrubbing stunt and the barrage of microtransactions that will surely follow afterward.

As Nikolas stated earlier, this will barely manage to even put a dent in third party RWTers. They will just continuously lower the prices of their services to ensure they're always on top. The simple fact of the matter is that unless Jagex decides to utterly ruin the game's economy by selling these bonds at a price so low that it is no longer profitable for RWTers to sell them, their operations will barely face a disruption. All this serves to do is to let a toxic pay to win mindset crawl into oldschool as it did with RS3.

Instead of being lazy and greedy, perhaps an actual non-gameplay impacting solution should be made. Why not implement scripts that detect when an overly imbalanced transaction takes place that gives a heads up to the moderators for them to check the logs to see if it was anything suspicious? Scripts to detect when an account's IP jumps across continents in a few minutes? Sure this may take a little more man power, especially when it comes to monitoring the suspicious logs but at least it wouldn't be diluting the purpose of Oldschool's existence.

This is just a lazy way of trying to curb rulebreaking and it simply will not work. The vast majority of people that would buy these bonds are going to be the people too paranoid to buy from 3rd party distributors as the people that already do buy from them will simply wait until their trusted source sells the same thing at half the price. You butchered one version of RuneScape already. Let's not do it to this one.

22-Jul-2014 22:56:22 - Last edited on 22-Jul-2014 22:59:14 by Qubeley

27cass

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I don't mind if bonds come to OSRS. Frankly if it wasn't for bonds, I would not be playing Runescape at all. The only reason I still play is because I can use my EOC gold to pay for my OSRS membership.

I never have and never will pay real money for membership, but bonds allow me to sell game gold to others who will pay my membership for me. I doubt adding bonds will ever pass a poll, but I do support.

In my case, this really doesn't matter much. I have enough EOC gold to fund my membership for many many years. But I think it might be nice for someone who only plays OSRS to earn their membership with in-game effort.

I figure if someone's gonna cheat, they will buy gold or bot gold or whatever. Bonds won't really change this much.

22-Jul-2014 23:16:58

Sanotsuto
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money irl always had an adventage in the game since day one,a good example is free to play vs member,members pay each month and got better ways to make money.
in theory this is the method of bonds too,paying to get an adventage in game.


Couldnt have put that in a better way.

Those who disagree with rwt should just keep playing freetrails. Afterall they wont want their achievement to be tarnish by rwt member now do they?


Members pay for the option to do work to level up.

Buying bonds converts to instant GP with no work at all.

Your argument is equivocal and erroneous.

23-Jul-2014 00:23:14

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