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XNovaCainX
Dec Member 2016

XNovaCainX

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Major Bis gear and Zulrah nerfing without giving players the option to vote on it? Terrible update. This is the kind of stuff you guys did on your own in the past that murdered the community last time. Don't make major changes without letting us vote on it. We were happy with void being bis and zulrah dropping lots of supplies. Iron needed those supplies even more and zulrah is a challanging boss to learn. Not cool. Not cool.

25-May-2017 14:41:40

IronCricky
Jul Member 2023

IronCricky

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Dark Lucina said :
Odirith said :
this update will lead to chaos, since people now will rely on rwting instead of making alts for money, which doesn't benefit your company at all. if anything, as the guy above me said, stop "staking". people make bills there depending on luck or ddosing and y'all here nerfing ZULRAH and VOID? lmfao


How can people turn to RWT en masse if they remove staking? :thinking:



Jagex OBVIOUSLY does make a lot of money off RWT or that's exactly what they would have done, they don't care about the player base they never have and never will, once they ruin this game enough they don't make enough money off it anymore they will make a new 07scape and I'm sure the mods will run the online gold market for that aswell, sad really this game has a lot more potential then most.

25-May-2017 14:42:16

Chdata

Chdata

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Soggy Napkin said :
Hey you know whats a great way to create longevity in a game? Upset the player base.....

I get the zulrah updates but the void update is so idiotic. If you updated void because it was too powerful that means to bring balance to the game; that means its been unbalance since 2006 or whenever void was released. I played in 2006, void didn't break the game at all because it had no defense. The game has became unbalanced not because void can do a lot of damage but because you keep adding eoc content into osrs.....

You know whats the best way to kill the longevity of the game? Kill the all original content that first got people playing the game. Another step in that direction, good job guys.


I hope Jagex doesn't listen to people like this.

It's thanks to stuff like this that I appreciate Jagex and see them in a new light for knowing when to push a balance change past polling.

For the past 5 years I've been managing, coding, and balancing a modded game mode for an FPS game (TF2).

As an amateur game dev, it's become apparent to me that individual players of any game tend to care about things that directly affect them.

In other words, they tend not to think of the big picture, and they don't have anyone to cater to except for themselves.

Game developers have to cater to a wide range of players with conflicting interests. Put any normal player into that position, and it'd certainly be a learning curve for them to deal with all of the backlash and eventually see a game under their management die out.

Of course, when it comes to devs forcing change onto players, it all comes down to whether or not they're making the right changes.

Jagex has a long history of bad changes, which is why this very thing is a hard decision for Jagex of OSRS, yet in other games like Overwatch or TF2 or my own community, it's how we operate with all of our updates.
An amateur game designer and community manager. (Not quite as chill when posting as a gamer)
A person who wants to go back in time, to the day before the EoC, start again from there, and do it the right way .
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25-May-2017 14:43:14

Chdata

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The 75% system is very nice though, and it encouraged me to run polls in my own community.

Rather than being a way to ensure all the best content gets in the game, I view it as a great way to ensure content that gets in, is of good quality.

Its caveats won't necessarily guarantee good quality though, because as I mentioned earlier, players vote selfishly and they vote based on short lived hype and based on short lived cognitive biases, but it's good for pruning total nonsense.
An amateur game designer and community manager. (Not quite as chill when posting as a gamer)
A person who wants to go back in time, to the day before the EoC, start again from there, and do it the right way .
Design Doc: Colosseum of Zeah - 6v6 PvP Minigame

25-May-2017 14:43:19

DaveDavidson

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Lucidfilms said :
Future items, but for real everyone knows void was op. Risking 180k is nothing..

You could spec 43/43 with dark bows how is that ''skill'' it was to op now it's nerfed deal with it or don't and quit over it ;) .


At 99 range in void with prayer and potions you can hit 48-48 with void, IF YOU'RE EXTREMELY LUCKY, as void doesn't give the best accuracy compared to other ranging armor.

However, someone with 20k untradable gear can spec 70+ with an AGS and that's "skill"? Or spam click a special attack with granite maul against the next-to-none defensive bonus of void and hit 35-35-35 and that's also "skill"?

Have you ever even played this game mate?

25-May-2017 14:43:52

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