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The map is a great feature.

I am VERY against the Castle Wars ticket idea. 25 for win is ludicrous . It devalues the point of Castle Wars, which a competitive minigame. So many dedicated players have spent hundreds of hours getting the thousands of tickets they currently have with time and effort. Why suddenly boost the win from 2 or 3 tickets (depending on the type of win you get) to 25!

Players have to work get their tickets. They already get 1 ticket for a loss as it is.

Keep the Castle War ticket system as it is.

29-Apr-2017 18:11:07

rly
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rly

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I've spent a very long time getting full gold decorative on my main, and I just played in 334 for halo on this account the past 3 weeks.

I'd be extremely upset if you updated the ticket rate. People don't go for full gold because of the stats, they go for it because it's a huge achievement and shows a dedication to a minigame that most can't fathom doing. You're going to take away the achievement from all the players who currently took the time to get this by 8x? At this rate, can we just poll EOC and runespan as well, because this is direction the game is heading.

If this passes, I hope you're going to add in new decorative rewards that cost 25x the current price of gold, as well as compensate everyone with tickets 25x their current stack.

We could have a helm that's 10,000 tickets, sword for 12500 tickets, kite/legs/skirt for 15,000 tickets, and a new plate for 25,000 tickets.

If this doesn't happen, you're going to kill off the dedicated CW community in world 334 to be replaced with people who will play for a week or so, get their rewards, then leave.

29-Apr-2017 18:31:41 - Last edited on 29-Apr-2017 18:32:29 by rly

Savz
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For the Rune Pouches:
Instead of making them Shift-Clickable, why not just make them left clickable to empty? Is that a possibility? Because right now, a Full rune pouch has the left click option to "Fill" which, logically speaking, doesn't make any sense. (The Partially filled rune pouches can still have the left click "Fill" option.)

29-Apr-2017 18:34:37

Angel2D4

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rly said :


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people who will play for a week or so, get their rewards, then leave.



Again.. WHY does it matter to you, how long somebody else plays a minigame? You aren't required to play parts of the game that OTHER people might want you to play.. so why on earth should other people be required to stay longer in a minigame than THEY want to? "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

29-Apr-2017 19:03:43

rly
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rly

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Angel2D4 said :
rly said :


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people who will play for a week or so, get their rewards, then leave.



Again.. WHY does it matter to you, how long somebody else plays a minigame? You aren't required to play parts of the game that OTHER people might want you to play.. so why on earth should other people be required to stay longer in a minigame than THEY want to?

Because as someone who only plays OSRS to play castle wars, it's going to make the community smaller than it already is.

Everyone who doesn't play multiple hours a day of castle wars has the idea that 90% of the people are just standing around AFKing tickets which just isn't true. I'm there literally at minimum 5 hours a day 7 days a week, and it's full of people actively playing the game. like 35%+ of the team is usually made up of pures, and 30% of them are actively play instead of climbing up ladder on spawn and afking for 20 mins.

You're right that you're not required to play castle wars. The decorative set has the same stats as full addy, and if you don't want earn to earn the 2400 that it requires like a lot of us loyal cwars players did, then you can wear adamant which takes .00001% of the time to achieve. Full gold dec isn't required for anything currently. No one who doesn't want to play should have to be there, but if you're after cosmetic rewards put in the time.

I'd be all for lowering the cost of halo and range gear/robes, but don't ruin full gold dec. for those who spent 6 months + of 10 hours a day to achieve a set of armor equivalent to adamant.

29-Apr-2017 23:59:06

Angel2D4

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So what I understand that to say is that because YOU spent as long as you did.. everybody else should have to spend as long as YOU did.. and that's simply not realistic.

I mean.. we could apply that logic to.. oh, Idk, how about farming.. if I didn't note things at the leprechaun.. why should you be able to?

Flawed 'logic'.

You say you'd be all for lowering the cost of 'some' of the rewards.. but not the cosmetic, most useless one.. even still.. would that not decrease the amount of time peeps had to spend to get the same result?

You state that those who don't spend multiple hours daily believe 90% of CW players are afk.. then you offer that much of CW players ARE in fact afking it:

" like 35%+ of the team is usually made up of pures, and 30% of them are actively"

Doesn't that translate to 10% are actively playing it (30% of your 35% estimate) and 90% are afking it? You seem to be confirming the belief anybody might have that CW is being afk'd by 90% of peeps anyway.. and who wants to play a game (mini or otherwise) that has that high of a ratio of afkers?

Should no part of the game ever be faster than that which somebody else might have spent doing it before (I trained agility on Ape Atoll, why should you have rooftops)? And if it should apply to a minigame why should it not apply across the board?

That just seems like a ludicrous argument to me.

If CW was fun.. peeps would play it.. more peeps would WANT to play it.. seems to me making it fun should be the goal.. not increasing the tickets or lowering the cost of items (which results in the same thing: less time needed to get what you want from CW, which I see no problem with in the first place). "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

30-Apr-2017 01:45:43

rly
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I meant that of the 35% of pures that play, 30% of them actively play while 5% of them afk. Almost all the mains are always playing.

So under your assumption, things that take a long time to get should be devauled because you don't want to spend the time? I think we might as well make all pets have a 25x drop rate, because like you I don't want to spend time achieving a goal in a game. It's too hard for me. Waah.

You also are comparing skills to cosmetics, which are completely different. Cosmetics are purely cosmetics and if you want them, you should put the time into getting them.

If this is what you want please play rs3. Stop making the game too easy because you can't put in the time to achieve things.

30-Apr-2017 02:37:23

stoikiy

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-Castle Wars-

Leave the point system as it is.* Don't reward AFKer's.

Don't devalue the grind.

People including myself put serious hours of work to obtain halo's, armor sets, robes, etc, precisely because that difficulty attracted us, because we wanted to achieve something unique that others did not have patience or skill for.

Don't reward AFKer's

A ticket boost WILL NOT bring more activity to the game. What it will do is encourage the the hundreds of AFKing players who quit the grind and cried about the dullness of CW on forums to enter the game and earn tickets for NO EFFORT AT ALL.
If these people were truly committed to obtaining halo's and armor sets, then they would find the time and patience to do it LIKE ALL CW VETERANS HAVE.

Pures who whine about the difficulty of finding time for obtaining halo's already have an cheap alternative: It's called Bearhead.

*Reward those who truly put an effort.
*The only people who should be considered for a ticket boost are those who score flags. There should be no reason why flag scorer's and AFKer's earn the same amount of tickets, when one gives enormous effort, and the other gives none at all.

Dont make this EZscape. Dont make it RS3. This is Oldschool, where those who have the patience to grind should reap the best rewards.

P.S. If you truly cared about CW, you would look into implementing mechanisms that would eliminate both AFKers that take up slots for competitors who truly want to play and sabotagers who purposely set up barricades so their own team would lose.

30-Apr-2017 03:03:08

Angel2D4

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rly said :
I meant that of the 35% of pures that play, 30% of them actively play while 5% of them afk. Almost all the mains are always playing.

So under your assumption, things that take a long time to get should be devauled because you don't want to spend the time? I think we might as well make all pets have a 25x drop rate, because like you I don't want to spend time achieving a goal in a game. It's too hard for me. Waah.

You also are comparing skills to cosmetics, which are completely different. Cosmetics are purely cosmetics and if you want them, you should put the time into getting them.

If this is what you want please play rs3. Stop making the game too easy because you can't put in the time to achieve things.

Nice try, but no.. it's not a matter of what *I* want.. there's one thing that will get me into CW and it won't be to play the game.. it will be for a diary req and not a minute longer.. no amount of tickets would change that.. no amount of lowering the cost of rewards (any part of the rewards) will change it either, which would be the same thing.

So.. "under your assumption" we should still be using rune and all GWD bosses should simply drop rune scimmys.. b/c that's the way it was at one point in time.

"If this is what you want please play" CLASSIC.. where everything is nice n slow. =)

Cosmetics are cosmetics and if peeps want them they SHOULD put the time in to getting them.. NOT necessarily the same amount of time YOU put into it, but certainly NOT afking it the way it sounds like a very large portion currently do.. oh but you're ok with the afkers because they afk'd for the same amount of hours it took you.. but at the very least peeps should have to afk the same amount of hours it took you, right? "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

30-Apr-2017 03:32:36

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