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Transcendent

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1) Should we introduce a trading post where you can post trade offers which will be visible to everyone? Offers will
only
appear when the seller is online and you will need to trade through the existing trading system.

2) If Question 1 passes, should players' trade offers be visible on the trading post when they are offline?

The questions are contradictory. If 1 passes, offers are only allowed to appear when the player is online, not when the player is offline.

If question 2 passes, the offers are supposed to appear when offline, which question 1 if it passes already said they can't appear when offline because according to question 1 offers will
only
appear when the player is online, therefore not when offline.

I really want both of these to pass to see how Jagex tries to figure out how to simultaneously make offers appear
only
when online but
also
when offline. Hi.

30-May-2014 22:15:43

dunforgiven

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1) The questions are contradictory. If 1 passes, offers are only allowed to appear when the player is online, not when the player is offline.

If question 2 passes, the offers are supposed to appear when offline, which question 1 if it passes already said they can't appear when offline because according to question 1 offers will
only
appear when the player is online, therefore not when offline.

I really want both of these to pass to see how Jagex tries to figure out how to simultaneously make offers appear
only
when online but
also
when offline.

the second question will CHANGE the first if it passes. if it doesn't, the first will go through unchanged. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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30-May-2014 22:17:37

Transcendent

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the second question will CHANGE the first if it passes. if it doesn't, the first will go through unchanged.

But they are contradictory.

If 1 passes with over 75%, players voted to ONLY have trade offers show when online.
If Jagex then makes trades appear when a player is offline, they have gone against the results, and any player who voted for trades showing ONLY when online would have a right to be miffed, because having the trades show only when online if it passed would exclude the possibility of trades showing when offline.

Likewise, if 1 passes, players who voted you need to trade through the existing trade system would be justified in making the claim since 1 passed Jagex should not make trades possible through the new trading system.

Question 1 is worded poorly, and if question 1 passes, 2 and 4 also passing would contradict what was voted for in question 1.

The poll is so badly worded, we could have a situation where it passes both for trades to only appear when a player is online while simultaneously requiring trades appearing when offline, which you can't do both.

Likewise, if 1 and 4 pass, you must use the existing trading system if 1 passes, but if 4 passes you can trade through the new system, which if 1 passes precludes 4 from passing, because it was already agreed to only trade through the existing system, so again the two are contradictory.

You can't both have 1 and 2 pass, and you can't both have 1 and 4 pass, without contradictory results. Hi.

30-May-2014 22:31:09 - Last edited on 30-May-2014 22:34:09 by Transcendent

Transcendent

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Question 1 should have been simply:

Should we make a new trading system. And the answer should have been a Yes or no.

Jagex could then have asked the other questions without creating contradictory poll results.

For example, players could have been given a choice between these two questions:
Should players need to trade using the current trading system?
Or
Should players in addition to being able to use the current trading system also be able to trade through the new trading system?

There would have been no contradictory or confusing results of what passed if worded as I suggest.

The way Jagex worded the questions, if question 1 passes and question 2 passes, did we vote for trades to appear only when online or did we vote for trades to appear when online and offline? The answer is we voted for both, for trades to ONLY appear when online and ALSO appear when offline, which are contradictory results.

My point is the poll is worded poorly, and it is fortunate for Jagex if only question 1 passes, and not also questions 2 and 4, which would make it confusing as to what really passed in the poll. Hi.

30-May-2014 22:56:05

ZeroThottery

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I'm just throwing Ideas out here.

The only way i support a trading system is if

1. Make the game only playable on the site to where no botting tools have a chance to poison the economy.

2. Do a daily scan of the worlds to see which accounts are botting and ban them instantly (I STRONGLY HATE BOTS) (at least 4 times a day. Every 3 hours REASONABLE)

3. Set limits to the amount of items people can buy. Example, 1k d bones max every 3-4 hours. Also the more money Said item costs, the less amount you can buy. Example 2 Fury's 3-4 hours.

5. Set limits on how long an item can stay up in the trading post. The more money items & quantity items, the less time the items gets to stay in the trading post. ie. Bandos Chestplate gets a max of 2 hours in the trading post. ie, 100k feathers get 1 hour in the trading post.

6. When a person logs out with items selling or buying in the trading post, After 15-20 minuets of the account being offline, all offers inside the trading post becomes nulled until the person logs back in. (Which upon the person logging back in, the offer goes back up. Or, a person to put in the offer but cant get the item until the other person logs back in but can decline the offer at anytime.)

7. Make the trading post in 1 or 2 worlds but nonexistent in the others.

8. Make the trading post like a catalog of some sorts. I don't wanna see the Grand Exchange anymore or every again. I wanna see something New, at a different location other than Varrock. Make a Market type place outside of castle wars for example. Have Different Sections for different items/supplies with Npc's to trade that sells the players items. Example, One NPC deals with ores, bars, ect. One NPC handles runes, staffs, armor, ect. Another NPC handles Herbs, Secondary potions, ect. As an example.

30-May-2014 23:09:22 - Last edited on 30-May-2014 23:10:12 by ZeroThottery

Rock Alt

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There sure has been alot of talk about automated trading. Lots of people want it and lots of people don't.

Now, we can finally conclude:

Automated trading did not pass a poll. It won't come into the game. No automated trade at all, ever. Nothing. Nada.


The voting is over. Done with. Finito. It won't happen. Automated trading will never be implemented in OSRS.


Maybe it is for the best, maybe it is not. We will see. For now, let's just move on and see if the update that actually did pass the poll is of any use.

/thread

31-May-2014 00:26:00 - Last edited on 31-May-2014 00:26:42 by Rock Alt

Havoc  V3

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Question 4 is at 71% with 15,510 yes votes and only at 29% with 6,187 no votes.
15,510 votes is more than double the 6,187 votes.
If it dose mean that 15,510 votes is not a majority
then there is something wrong in my view.

Majority means jack. 75% is the limit and ONLY 75%, just like every other poll up to this point.

Yes clearly those 15,510+ people aren't the majority. 6,187 are going to win against the 15,510 because
that is how it works these days
. LOL
That's why it's called a super majority. And that's how it's worked the past 15 months.

Have you been living under a rock?

31-May-2014 00:28:23 - Last edited on 31-May-2014 00:31:26 by Havoc  V3

Noob player

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^ Response: I still believe that that the vote with over 2x the amount of people should win. Really I think its useless just to spend more time to meet up with the guy. You gain nothing but wasting 5-10 extra mins to complete a trade and see what the guy is wearing, but 29% is willing to do that for the sake of ''wasting time'' or you might call it ''player interaction''.

31-May-2014 00:49:08 - Last edited on 31-May-2014 00:56:41 by Noob player

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