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Matt Osrs

Matt Osrs

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Good fight AH/GE supporters. I'm glad the OSRS Team has realized that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the current trading system and that there's definitely no need to change its core.


The only prob is zy we don't know if they manipulate prices? What if none passes no AH/GE at very least get you workin' MAT K make an official price guide like zy.


READ THIS! O_o

26-May-2014 14:29:32

Eggs

Eggs

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This is spectacular, you're letting us decide whether or not we want automatic trading (as opposed to forcing it upon us). I like this poll, it's great. I'll be voting no to a couple of things, but it's great.

26-May-2014 14:29:44 - Last edited on 26-May-2014 14:30:01 by Eggs

Im So Maddie
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Im So Maddie

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I see a lot of bad things in the future with a AH such as:

undercutting
e-fame players posting things very high (maybe an anonimize option?)
easy wealth transfer

Probably more i can't think of. If we are going to have an AH please don't let it sort by value, people will just click for lowest value and undercutting will ruin the price of items.

26-May-2014 14:31:43

Caleb
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Caleb

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I see a lot of bad things in the future with a AH such as:

undercutting
e-fame players posting things very high (maybe an anonimize option?)
easy wealth transfer

Probably more i can't think of. If we are going to have an AH please don't let it sort by value, people will just click for lowest value and undercutting will ruin the price of items.


Pretty much.

26-May-2014 14:32:47

Quest Nature

Quest Nature

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Some people mentioned the dieing with barrows gloves and such, although I do like the idea, it will be abused, you could just get your money back when you upgraded from Rune gloves to Dragon for example, to combat this you would need to have like 30% lost at least.

I do enjoy the fact that you are careful with this trading thing, to avoid getting RS3 madness.

26-May-2014 14:33:24

Must U Run

Must U Run

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The whole idea of starting with a basic trading post is horrid.

Question 1: do you want to start with this terrible idea : yes because we need trade solution.

Question 2: should offers be available to be seen when u are offline : no because i don't want to see people offers just to add them and not have them online.

Question 3: should offers be posted for more than 6 hours : no, we don't need unreasonable offers staying on the board for more then 6 hours.

Question 4: if we add this trading post should we allow trading through the post itself? rather then having to meet with the player : well of course you should, but now that ruins the idea of removing posts after people go offline, because now you've offered a solution to above issue (question number 2). so if this question passes now you have to re-ask the whole community whether posts should be allowed when offline. nice!

Question 5: should you be permitted to buy a portion of an item if someone is selling in bulk through the new trade system : yes, not only 100/1000 either, if i want to buy 1/100000 deaths runes i should be able to.

Question 6: Should we allow you to add a buy offer for items and allow the system to find the best match for you : oh wait a trading post was only for people selling? well that is just great! everyone go here to sell your items but you cant buy anything here! woooooooow..ok yes to clear this up i should be able to buy items at a trading post..

Question 7: if we introduce the trading post to match your buy offers should they still be available to been seen while your offline : well this depends on if your allowing us to trade while we are offline..once again, there is no point in allowing them while offline if you wont allow us to do it, so since we start with the basic, we will say no..and then you will have to repoll us later on this year..

I looked at the first trading solutions post and im like man this sound great! Letting us decide everything will ruin this update!

26-May-2014 14:35:50

Randomwannab
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Randomwannab

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Okay 2 things I didn't like about this poll.

First thing is that we need 75% vote to take something out of the game that we may not have wanted in the game.
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"Question: Should we introduce a trading post where you can post trade offers which will be visible to everyone? Offers will only appear when the seller is online and you will need to trade through the existing trading system."
This question to me asks "Do you want a trading post where you can post your sell offers" and demands "and if you do then players have to be online and you will need to trade through the existing method..... unless you get 75% on the other polls we come out with."
This doesn't make sense because we are supposed to be voting for what we want in the game. If we vote to add something in the game, how we want it should be a 50% approval poll, so, since we are adding it into the game already, we could pick the idea that majority of the people want, not "Oh 74% of people want this, but 26% don't, so, guess those 74% are out of luck, even though they are majority."
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The second thing I didn't like is the order that the questions are being asked.

Question2: If we introduce the trading post, should players’ trade offers be visible when they are offline?
Question4: If we introduce the trading post should players be able trade items through it rather than having to meet up to trade through the existing trade system?"

I believe that the fourth question should come before question 2, so that if that passes, then we can decide if we would like the offers to be visible while offline. Of course nobody would want the trade offers visible while offline if you have to make the trade manually. If the fourth question is before the second it asks the players "If players are able to trade through the new trade system, then would you like the offers to be available offline?" Perhaps adding question in after the previous question would be a good idea and would clear up some confusion.

26-May-2014 14:38:28

Do It Bobby

Do It Bobby

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People are gonna pick to buy low and sell high, It just seems like a lot of work and more time trying to buy a certain amount of something than if it was just the G.E setup where the items were just bundled into groups of their price range. The only people that don't want the G.E are the merchers, and they ruin the game themselves by taking advantage of the needs of people and exploiting the prices with merchant bots. At least with the Grand Exchange you didn't see it happening even though it still did. You keep talking that you want the game to be a social experience but you could just do that by making more mini-games that involved more players. Or you could add group quests that take multiple people to do it with(not just Shield of Arrav and Heroes). When people want to buy and sell an item they don't care about that 5 second interaction and I(and everyone else) don't become friends with people they trade. They simply get their item or cash and move on with the game. Simplifying the trading system by putting the G.E into the game would make getting an item or your cash faster so you could actually do your clue scroll or finish your quest. To be honest the game was perfect the week before the EoC came out and should of just continued separately from that and the EoC should of had to start with a fresh account since in one update you changed the game more than all the other updates combined. With all the changes in Old School RS so far the game is far from August 2007. More effort should be placed in ridding the game of the bots that influence the prices more than merchers. People can still make money with the 5% up and down offers on the G.E. Playing the game should be the social aspect of it, not the procurement of items. The Grand Exchange was a very social place pre EoC with people skilling at the banks and maybe you could add a mini-game in the middle to attract more people.
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26-May-2014 14:40:24

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