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Real Madrid

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Kendog Willy said :
Does your main money making method include looting in the wilderness? If not then you have nothing to worry about with claws.

so i shouldn't be worried about one or a group of crashers with max gear or melee void specing out bandos/sara/zammy or any other multi pvm boss? lol please did you not play rs3 when claws were out???

29-Oct-2016 21:12:54

Kegs
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Kegs

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Hold off on the dragon claws and release them later on in the game, along side a new quest that isn't pure friendly and also is required to wield dragon claws or don't release them at all. ( Dragon Warhammer should've required a quest to wield )

( Dragon Short Sword, passed right? Should've required a quest like Monkey Madness 2. Would have made perfect sense but too late for that )

Dragon Hunter Crossbow - pointless

Elder, Twisted and Kodai - They don't bother me one way or another but I'll be voting yes if they don't degrade.

Twisted Buckler - Sure why not.

Twisted Bow - Yes, but should be an item used on the Seercull bow that makes it.

Ancestral Robes - Sure why not.

Dihn's Bulwark - Seems like a cool idea, I'm wondering how it'll look.

29-Oct-2016 21:29:35

Formerly Joy

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I'd like to give my constructive feedback?

Firstly, Dragon Claws! This is a step in the right direction. I applaud the Old School Team for finally giving them a chance at polls. More so for accurately educating us and monitoring feedback, which is WHY I am writing to you.

To the point, I believe raids are in danger. More so in danger if any of this content fails to pass when polled. You've said it yourself: "raids will be one of the biggest, most ambitious, and overall most challenging PvM experiences Old School RS has to offer to date." So why do these rewards feel so underwhelming? A whole lot of the majority.

Dragon Claws:
Absolutely proud of you for polling this weapon. They are not over-powering compared to the one tick AGS 81+ max. They are also highly sought after. My suggestion is make them a reward from one of the final / more difficult bosses in the raids. This will help keep a control on them being overpopulated in PvP.

Dragon Shortsword:
Rubbish. Absolute rubbish.

New Prayers:
100% What this game needs to progress better PvP, and more difficult PvM. If weapons become overpowering, look into releasing new armors, prayers, and consumables.

Dinh's Bulwark:
Which leads me to the new 2H-Shield. Great idea, and will fit in perfectly for the future of "real tanking" and better PvM.

Raid Armors:
Are getting a lot of hate. If these don't pass we'll barely be offered ANY reasonable rewards. I also find these rewards 100% LAUGHABLE! They are barely better than Bandos / Armadyl / Ahrims, yet cost a lot to use. No HP bonuses or anything. These are the "big reward" we are waiting for???

Robes:
Speaking of final boss reward we were waiting for...WTF guys... seriously, WTF. At least poll the Diving Sigil. These robes are a joke. 6% Damage, and a bit of accuracy, but so rare no one will use them? Well done. JK rethink this ENTIRELY!

Dragon Throwing Axes:
Junk. Absolute JUNK.

TO BE CONTINUED

29-Oct-2016 22:34:09

Formerly Joy

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Dragon Hunter Crossbow:
This is a cool concept, but way too niche of a weapon to even matter.

Twisted Bow:
Again, niche, but a cool concept. May change PvM a bit for the better, but as for PvP it sounds pretty useless. I propose tweaking the damage buff to calculate at different rates depending on the target being a player or NPC. This might replace it for pures, and maybe even main PK'ers who use Magic Shortbow. If the Twisted Bow overall can provide a much better damage output on a opposing player with 90+ magic... it would be interesting.

SUMMARY:

You are doing a good job, but not good enough. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH REWARDS FOR THE SO CALLED "BIGGEST UPDATE EVER!" The few rewards we do have are almost all junk opposed to a bare few. We need to change this...and fast. Otherwise this will just be a pointless raid update. I want more for this. Poll Divine Sigil if you have to, come up with new gears, new weapons that actually work.

Remember the Abyssal Dagger? The piece of crap you completely wasted potential on?? You said it would be a "PvP combo weapon with HIGH ACCURACY and potential to hit through good gear." You ruined it. Absolutely ruined it. How about a new dagger, or a real combo weapon for Hybrid PK'ers?? That's a huge part of your community isn't it?

What about polling Morgan Javelins under a new name? You get asked A LOT for them?? Well, what about the wasp boss having it's stinger dropped and crafted into the Javelins!? Seriously I'm coming up with these off the top of my head. No thinking whatsoever, and they already sound better than what you're offering.

Please please please - open a PDC, BEG for suggestions if you have to. But seriously... I want these raids to be worth doing. They're a month, two, maybe 3 away. We have little time. FIX THIS!

If you're not open to suggestions and creating new stuff at last moment...why would you post "we're monitoring feedback?" Do it now :(

29-Oct-2016 22:34:14 - Last edited on 29-Oct-2016 22:42:22 by Formerly Joy

Formerly Joy

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Final follow-up

Do not be afraid of power creep. You've done a brilliant job offering niche items, but at the end of the day that's all they are. We need more med-level content / niche items, but this is current end-game elite raiding PvM. Please give us something a little more. Anything more. If Dragon Claws pass, it's proof we're willing to take the creep if we do it right.

New top weapons need new top gear, prayers (you're offering), and consumables to make the combat triangle happy. Thank you if you actually read this :@

29-Oct-2016 22:45:01

Drop Dad
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Drop Dad

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Dragon Claws :D

But where's the good stuff lol? I agree with a lot of the people here... too many "niche" items that aren't any good. If Dragon Claws fail, the entire raid update is POINTLESS

I don't like the armors / robes, too weak to be honest. I thought this was supposed to be hardcore PvM with 100+ man teams? You guys aren't offering enough. Or at least...for the few items you are offering...they are worthless, minus dragon claws which is a real good idea.

*edit*
Delay raids if you have to. They aren't ready yet. These rewards are actually a joke now that I really think about it.

29-Oct-2016 22:49:14 - Last edited on 29-Oct-2016 22:49:50 by Drop Dad

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