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abdoh

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Angel this is a grievance I've had with the old school team. They poll stuff like changing the color of a dragon defender but then add stuff like the Zeah catacombs and raids without even polling it.

28-Aug-2016 14:02:43

IronManWhy
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Since during multiple q & a's it has been stated that ironmen will be able to participate in raids in some manner as raids will be based solely on individual contribution - I am curious as to what the BASE rewards will be.

Certainly the eldermaul/new prayers will be useful but I am more interested in the Misc - loot.

At places such as wyverns I am able to get more raw resources in an hour then I would if I was doing the resource gathering manually (such as cutting magic trees for logs)

Will this be the same for raids? Will the raw resource rewards be greater then the amount I could get if I was to grind for them, for the same amount of time?



Edit: As a potential new reward, I know its been said 1000x but - dragon crossbow. To "fit" dcb into the game, Nerf the RCB by 6 range bonus, buff the ACB by 6 range bonus, and slot DCB into the middle.

28-Aug-2016 16:43:17 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2016 16:52:08 by IronManWhy

Ferocire

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Funny, that. I went looking to see if raids had been polled about a week ago. I couldn't find where they had been either.

Nope, I think this time they're just gonna shove it on through with no regard to player support.


It wasn't polled on it's on, it was polled together with zeah. Zeah passed so raids passed with it.

Rangerbob210 said :
I Hope the Defence bonus from Twisted Armour is just a joke its nearly the Same Bonus like armadyl and the new mage Armour has more Defence? Please Check and fix it ..... 30% more would be fair ...


That's the combat triangle for you. Kodai is mage armor so it has higher melee defense than Twisted.
OSRS Mage Tank.


Believe magic to only be for support? Think again. It's just as valid of a Pking style as melee and range is.

28-Aug-2016 19:15:47 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2016 19:18:28 by Ferocire

Warcat

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A 99 range 1 def 74 prayer PURE will be combat lvl 79. I highly oppose the fact that pures will be able to use the rigour prayer. Sure, let them have it for PvM purpouse which is what they are asking for but please consider making it unusable for PvP unless you are 70 defence. Both arguments get satisfied, but you cannot seriously think it is a good idea to let pures / void rangers use this powerful prayer in PvP?

Adding a 70 defence requirement was a good idea, so that these prayers could stay balanced. Range tanks will again be viable after the certain combat lvl where now melee reigns. But please keep pures and void rangers away from the power. That will create unbalance in PvP in all combat lvls up to the 90's.

It is also unfair that with a prayer which will cost in the tens or hundreds of million GP can be used to gain a significant advantage in PvP. Pay to win factor? Content like this should be available to every player willing to pay for 74 / 77 prayer.

28-Aug-2016 19:44:23 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2016 19:47:46 by Warcat

Competition
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Warcat said :
A 99 range 1 def 74 prayer PURE will be combat lvl 79. I highly oppose the fact that pures will be able to use the rigour prayer. Sure, let them have it for PvM purpouse which is what they are asking for but please consider making it unusable for PvP unless you are 70 defence. Both arguments get satisfied, but you cannot seriously think it is a good idea to let pures / void rangers use this powerful prayer in PvP?

Adding a 70 defence requirement was a good idea, so that these prayers could stay balanced. Range tanks will again be viable after the certain combat lvl where now melee reigns. But please keep pures and void rangers away from the power. That will create unbalance in PvP in all combat lvls up to the 90's.

It is also unfair that with a prayer which will cost in the tens or hundreds of million GP can be used to gain a significant advantage in PvP. Pay to win factor? Content like this should be available to every player willing to pay for 74 / 77 prayer.


I like your idea about not being able to use it in PvP as like you said most people want to use it for PvM just like myself. Probably a good way to go about it when it fails with and without a defence requirement.

28-Aug-2016 20:34:48

Angel2D4

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@imperium

I know it wasn't polled on its' own and that it was polled with the Zeah question. I also know that they:

"also said any significant changes/additions would be polled separately"

And perhaps YOU don't consider the raids as described a "significant change" or "addition", but many of us DO.

Aside from that there were just over 19K yes votes on that poll (not even half of the current daily players as far as I can tell).

I know they plan to just shove it on through. I've stated as much.

I just happen to think it's wrong because it proves them a LIAR once more (and it does NOT have the support of the current player base backing it).
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

28-Aug-2016 22:38:53

Angel2D4

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abdoh said :
Angel this is a grievance I've had with the old school team. They poll stuff like changing the color of a dragon defender but then add stuff like the Zeah catacombs and raids without even polling it.


My biggest problem with it isn't just that they shove in whatever they want. They do it AFTER claiming they'll poll it 'later' (making that claim for no other reason than to get yes votes from unsuspecting voters at the time, and they succeeded now didn't they?).

My biggest problem with it is that they LIED.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

28-Aug-2016 22:41:24

bluejester92

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I have to say, I just went through lots of the elder beta weapon & barbarian assault update in the forum, and this dev blog: raids and armours reward, my only concern is that this and these type of updates may ruin the old school feel, I mean, the combat system isn't what it was in, 2006, cause of ags and so on, but it still provides nostalgia, though somewhat subtracted with the ags weapons, dfs, and so on, whatever happens I hope for the best, but there is this part of me that's nagging me, eating me from the inside out, I fear that runescape may be heading down a rabbit hole, any how maybe we should have a poll on which weapons we would like removed? such as the other weapons mentioned above in my post.

I'd hate if the game changed so radically that I lost enjoyment of the game and that I didn't see myself playing it in the future.

I strongly suggest thinking this more thoroughly before jumping on the wagon.
Quality is better than quantity.

The players should should dictate which direction the game is going.
I understand that part, but I feel that we as a community may just be agreeing to this update.
or adding input into it without really thinking it through.
Basically what I'm saying here is this is inevitably going to get hyped, popularized and so on.
Quality updates would be much preferred over any type of rushed update.
And would benefit the game design in the long run.

Thanks.
Sincerely yours.
bluejester92.

29-Aug-2016 01:15:06 - Last edited on 29-Aug-2016 01:39:42 by bluejester92

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