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Yumy

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A dds can out dps ags and has 4 specs, does everyone use it. no. d warhammer will be the same way. Just panic sell your ags like 90% of the other people complaining. Or get over it and allow for more diverse content to be added to the game.

13-Jan-2016 21:00:28 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2016 21:01:34 by Yumy

Legolas
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Gellinhead said :
Gellinhead said :


2 specials, considerably lower accuracy than BGS, defence drain negated by a 500gp potion.

just lol if you think you don't gain another 10% spec during a fight.

you probably wouldn't know judging by your stats and 0 BH kills you have probably never even pked before yet are putting input on this weapon in a PVP situation. Thanks for your input though.

Edit:

"considerably lower" is approximately 10% less accurate if ur wearing a dragon defender, 132 vs 118.

Special energy is 50%. Therefor, 2 special. You won't get 50% again in a fight.

This is my main. Of course I don't pk on it; simply because I don't pk on the account I use in forums doesn't mean I don't pk/haven't PK'd before; (including RS2 meta which was ENTIRELY eff'd up with everything running around...) That mentality gets nowhere man, not everyone has just one account.

It's 11% lower accuracy; I ran the numbers on it earlier. On the note of "Relying on Dragon weapons", half the dragon weapons can outhit an AGS under ideal conditions. DDS can do almost 80 damage four times, D mace can do 50s four times, D Long can do 50s four times, D hally (although not in PvP) can do 100 damage 3 times.

Do you see these numbers come up much? No. Do you see the AGS hit insane numbers a lot? Yes.

There's your accuracy difference.

The DWH being able to hit 60s in PvP isn't anything new to the scene. Every major Dragon weapon can hit just as hard, if not harder, than the DWH. This weapon being able to hit 60, while AGS can still do mid 70s, isn't anything to be upset over.

For 15 extra attack levels I'd had better be able to hit 10 more damage and far more frequently. Nope.

13-Jan-2016 21:04:37 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2016 21:07:20 by Legolas

Lapua 338
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Slay Helm said :

Also, can you confirm whether or not the DWH will be tradeable and if the new ranged cape will have the avas effect (if it doesn't it will be rather dead content, it would be extremely expensive to use unless you chin or use a karils bow, the only place a high level would chin is arma, where you also need an avas, and no high level would chin unless going for 200m range without slayer, because technically they should all be 99 range already).

To continue on your thoughts on jad 2 capes:

Will the magic cape function the same as a god cape in respect to the charge spell and the 3 arena spells?

If the ranged cape does NOT work as avas, could it have a % chance effect of lighting your projectile on fire (destroying that projectile in the process) to deal bonus damage; this could be toggled on/off, and would only work on weapons with retrievable ammunition.
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13-Jan-2016 21:16:11

Omaci
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Wouldnt the barrows tele make the mortanya hard diaries pointless? People worked hard on those to be able to do barrows easily, this will defeat the purpose :( .

Anyone else have these same thoughts? ^_^

13-Jan-2016 21:18:49

Turkey One

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Omaci said :
Wouldnt the barrows tele make the mortanya hard diaries pointless? People worked hard on those to be able to do barrows easily, this will defeat the purpose :( .

Anyone else have these same thoughts?
From two pages ago

"Its somewhat the same as people saying the Barrows teleport devalues Morytania 3 even though you would only do that, in the context of doing barrows, for the rune increase because you would just do chests for 20+ minutes before you bank then minigame teleport back. You lose the spells that allow you to efficiently do 20+ minute long runs for chests by being on Necromancy. Lol."

That teleport from mory 3 was devalued before it existed.

13-Jan-2016 21:33:27 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2016 21:34:14 by Turkey One

Mad Erudite

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so the dragon warhammer has the same str bonus as the dragon battleaxe? it makes little to no sence if compared to their runite counterparts, now the rune warhammer has 48 str bonus, and the rune battleaxe has 64, the increase in str from the rune to the dragon battleaxe in str bonus is about %33, the increase in str from the rune to the dragon warhammer would be about %75?

the warhammer should follow it's counterparts and have less str bonus then the dragon battleaxe.

13-Jan-2016 21:35:40

Ferocire

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Gellinhead said :
Y It would instantly over take the AGS for best spec weapon in PVP. The base stats are fine (i guess) the spec is what is broken. while being 1-handed and ONLY 60 attack to wear as well as 3 specials in a fight.. BGS gets one and AGS gets two on a per fight basis. I would personally use this weapon over an AGS. I am 75-99-45 incase anyone was wondering and PK every single day. If you want to create content that is more powerful than the supposed 'best' ko weapons in the game (god swords) it better have higher requirements than those weapons.

Again I'm not talking about the "base stats" or "speed" nobody should be using a dragon weapon for DPS training anyway. The special itself is broken.

Maybe i shouldn't complain though because i would be one of the lucky few able to afford this weapon as PVP especially from 60-105 combat will be heavily DWH spec based.

I disagree. The AGS is so strong because its accuracy is so brokenly high that it practically ignores defense. It doesn't matter if my def is freshly potted up and my def bonus is exceeding 267+..the ags still often hits as if I have no armor at all.

The warhammer will be strong, but it's not comparable to the AGS.


Gellinhead said :
"considerably lower" is approximately 10% less accurate if ur wearing a dragon defender, 132 vs 118.

The godswords have a 2.00 accuracy modifier applied to their accuracy rolls during the special attack. The warhammer will not, which means it will have less than half the accuracy.
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13-Jan-2016 22:43:27 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2016 22:47:17 by Ferocire

Legolas
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Ferocire said :


The godswords have a 2.00 accuracy modifier applied to their accuracy rolls during the special attack. The warhammer will not, which means it will have less than half the accuracy.

I actually didn't know this... do you have proof or anything justifying this? Nope.

13-Jan-2016 23:05:13 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2016 23:05:38 by Legolas

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