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Oblv XB

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why do you insist on talking; as for total level on OSRS i got 122 cb in JULY OF 2013 LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO.

i dont skill' because im a pker, the only time i'd skill is to reget a quest cape or get levels up to make gp. Otherwise i dont brag on about my total level saying i haven't played in 6 months, so let me get this straight for 6 months you've sat on forums talking badly and trying to act like some sort of smartass when that clearly makes you look like you have no life outside of runescape at all.

wow, that sucks. PS you changed your argument in your last post to "pking was a success in 2007 b/c of a large player base" i thought you said "pking was never about this game nor will it be"

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22-Mar-2014 19:53:06 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2014 19:53:34 by Oblv XB

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Xp gained from high alchemy at the Fountain of Rune should scale with the High alch value of the item. The higher the alch value the more xp you gain. This will give people incentive to use the fountain of rune and also give pkers incentive to pk at the fountain of rune. Higher risk = greater reward.

Or they should make you get double coins regardless of what item.

So if yew long bow high alchs for 768 gp, you'd get 1536 coins.

Support!

This would ruin the game. Not too long ago I smithed about 12-14k rune platelegs. If you could get double coins then that would of brought an extra 400M+ cash into the game in just about 15 hours.

I would hunt you down, muhahaha :)

22-Mar-2014 20:36:32

Transcendent

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The non combat skills were built around combat, however that does not mean the game was always or ever was about PVP only. I was attracted to the game because of the non combat content, skilling, questing, treasure trails, and earning GP through mining and smithing was one of my early goals.

Unfortunately Jagex neglected to update the non combat skills which attracted me and others to the game over the years. Whenever a new weapon or armour is added t o the game Jagex should be asking which skill should it be added to, instead all they ever think is what monster should it be added to. Its a shame really, especially considering more players are interested in non combat skills, or combat skills like Slayer, than in PVP or boss hunting.

I kept pretty quiet about the wilderness rejuvination project because PKers do exist even if they are a minority of the total players, however I knew I would not be going in the wild as fodder for PKers so it doesn't matter what Jagex adds to the wilderness skillers like me will never go there as long as the intention is to make us lose items to PKers. I suspected the wildy rejuvination might last a week or two before Pkers realised skillers were avoiding the place, and wanted to come up with more rules to force skillers to lose more to them, but guess what, that was tried in RS3 and evefry suggestion PKers asked for which was added just made the wilderness more and more dead, because the more dangerous it is made for skillers, the more likely skillers will lose items, the less likely skillers will go in the wild.

And we already know PKers don't want to fight each other. That is obvious. But what makes Jagex or PKers think if PKers won't fight each other, that they can make victims out of players who want nothing to do with PVP at all?

This is why the wilderness rejuvination will never work, Jagex are trying to build it around making victims of players who don't want anything to do with PVP. Hi.

22-Mar-2014 20:53:25

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EDIT: @ Tyria Mine

why do you insist on talking; as for total level on OSRS i got 122 cb in JULY OF 2013 LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO.

i dont skill' because im a pker, the only time i'd skill is to reget a quest cape or get levels up to make gp. Otherwise i dont brag on about my total level saying i haven't played in 6 months, so let me get this straight for 6 months you've sat on forums talking badly and trying to act like some sort of smartass when that clearly makes you look like you have no life outside of runescape at all.

wow, that sucks. PS you changed your argument in your last post to "pking was a success in 2007 b/c of a large player base" i thought you said "pking was never about this game nor will it be"

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I'm not the one that said 'you must be new here' based on a date stamp under the avatar. You are. I simply pointed out that there were things you could have checked before making such a stupid statement.

My 'argument' hasn't changed at all. You seem confused.

I said it's not ALL about pking (pvp) and it never was. Just because you choose to do nothing more than pvp in a game doesn't mean the game is only about pvp.

I can understand why it would be awkward for you, but answer me this...

If it's all about pvp (this old game) then why on earth did they need to 'rejuvenate' the 'rejuvenation' of the wilderness?

You want more people IN the wilderness? You'll need to get off your high horse and actually ASK the people who aren't in the wilderness what would bring THEM to the wilderness... after all... you're already there so there's no need to provide YOU with incentive to go into the wilderness.. is there (that's rhetorical so no question mark will appear here). "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

22-Mar-2014 20:58:35

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EDIT: @ Tyria Mine

why do you insist on talking; as for total level on OSRS i got 122 cb in JULY OF 2013 LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO.

i dont skill' because im a pker, the only time i'd skill is to reget a quest cape or get levels up to make gp. Otherwise i dont brag on about my total level saying i haven't played in 6 months, so let me get this straight for 6 months you've sat on forums talking badly and trying to act like some sort of smartass when that clearly makes you look like you have no life outside of runescape at all.

wow, that sucks. PS you changed your argument in your last post to "pking was a success in 2007 b/c of a large player base" i thought you said "pking was never about this game nor will it be"

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I'm not the one that said 'you must be new here' based on a date stamp under the avatar. You are. I simply pointed out that there were things you could have checked before making such a stupid statement.

My 'argument' hasn't changed at all. You seem confused.

I said it's not ALL about pking (pvp) and it never was. Just because you choose to do nothing more than pvp in a game doesn't mean the game is only about pvp.

I can understand why it would be awkward for you, but answer me this...

If it's all about pvp (this old game) then why on earth did they need to 'rejuvenate' the 'rejuvenation' of the wilderness?

You want more people IN the wilderness? You'll need to get off your high horse and actually ASK the people who aren't in the wilderness what would bring THEM to the wilderness... after all... you're already there so there's no need to provide YOU with incentive to go into the wilderness.. is there (that's rhetorical so no question mark will appear here).

we both know they updated it because it was lacking content to make players go in; however it didnt help making all the drop tables the sameeeeeeeeeeeeee
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22-Mar-2014 20:59:48

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When Jagex and PKers are ready to listen to skillers about making the wild full of players you let me know, and I will give you ideas that will work, and its not going to be built around making victims of skillers who don't want to PK.

The wild can be built for PKing, but any ideas anyone has of making skilling the bottom of PKing pyramid will never work.

If you want the wild to have skillers in it, you have to make it so skillers won't get killed by PKers a majority of the time, so they can profit and will want to be there. Trying to make skillers fodder will just result in an empty wild.

If PKers want someone to kill, then Jagex better change their ideas of how the wilderness really works, and stop thinking they can built it with skillers at the bottom, and start building it around getting PKers to fight other Pkers. That is the only way a wilderness rejuvination project will ever work, is if the wild is built around making PKers targets of other PKers.

Meanwhile, I'll be staying out of the wild.
If you don't like the risk, stay out of the wild. Well I am, so why do PKers tell me to stay out if I don't like the risk, then try to get Jagex to increase the risk, remove 1 and 3 iteming, and think its going to work? Players aren't going with 1 or 3 items because they like risk, and if they can't keep 1 item or 3 items, they will bring no items and risk nothing.

So if you want players to risk, you are going to have to make those who are risking be PKers, not skillers who don't want to fight other players. Hi.

22-Mar-2014 21:00:20

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The non combat skills were built around combat, however that does not mean the game was always or ever was about PVP only. I was attracted to the game because of the non combat content, skilling, questing, treasure trails, and earning GP through mining and smithing was one of my early goals.

Unfortunately Jagex neglected to update the non combat skills which attracted me and others to the game over the years. Whenever a new weapon or armour is added t o the game Jagex should be asking which skill should it be added to, instead all they ever think is what monster should it be added to. Its a shame really, especially considering more players are interested in non combat skills, or combat skills like Slayer, than in PVP or boss hunting.

I kept pretty quiet about the wilderness rejuvination project because PKers do exist even if they are a minority of the total players, however I knew I would not be going in the wild as fodder for PKers so it doesn't matter what Jagex adds to the wilderness skillers like me will never go there as long as the intention is to make us lose items to PKers. I suspected the wildy rejuvination might last a week or two before Pkers realised skillers were avoiding the place, and wanted to come up with more rules to force skillers to lose more to them, but guess what, that was tried in RS3 and evefry suggestion PKers asked for which was added just made the wilderness more and more dead, because the more dangerous it is made for skillers, the more likely skillers will lose items, the less likely skillers will go in the wild.

And we already know PKers don't want to fight each other. That is obvious. But what makes Jagex or PKers think if PKers won't fight each other, that they can make victims out of players who want nothing to do with PVP at all?

This is why the wilderness rejuvination will never work, Jagex are trying to build it around making victi

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22-Mar-2014 21:02:56

Oblv XB

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i swear to god; i literally just died.

you THINK PKERS DON'T WANT TO FIGHT EACH OTHER?!?!@?!#?!# l00000000000000000l

sorry bud, but a pker doesn't count if you kill a skiller - thats like killing a runecrafter LOL. sorry that's not pking - pkers want to fight each other. Hence PvP Worlds

but PvP Worlds killed the game and have 450 / 500 players that are suppose to be in the wildy that currently ARE NOT.
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22-Mar-2014 22:01:24

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i swear to god; i literally just died.

you THINK PKERS DON'T WANT TO FIGHT EACH OTHER?!?!@?!#?!# l00000000000000000l

sorry bud, but a pker doesn't count if you kill a skiller - thats like killing a runecrafter LOL. sorry that's not pking - pkers want to fight each other. Hence PvP Worlds

but PvP Worlds killed the game and have 450 / 500 players that are suppose to be in the wildy that currently ARE NOT.

Wait... you implied that the game is all about pvp... how could pvp worlds kill the game (your current claim)?

And if it's all about pking.. where is all the peeps that should be in the wild right now?

ROFL "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

22-Mar-2014 22:11:07

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