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Lunatic

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'Anyone can disagree with anything they so choose, but it isn't my opinion that 75% is required and wasn't achieved... it is a FACT (and you know it).'

Yes, and it is your

opinion

that this ‘fact’ is the lord and saviour. I personally feel you don’t need to voice that opinion in reply to anyone with a differing view.

'All of us posting in these forums, do so when we feel compelled to do so. We post in response to any post we feel needs a response (that 'all of us' includes YOU). I am no different and there are no different rules for different posters.'

I’m not saying you shouldn’t post if you want to, was just my opinion on the situation that you replied to. You’re free to reply to whom you wish and about what you wish. I just find it strange that you would claim to trust the community to think of the consequences of voting yes to something they want before clicking yes, yet seemingly don’t trust people to have seen/read your previous posts stating the same thing as you’re about to post.

As for seeing less of your posts, I don’t care about the amount you post – your time to use how you wish. My advice was just less of the same statement might help avoid aggravating people & save you/others time, you don’t need to heed my advice. No need to act like I’m attacking you.

'See, I'm not 'arguing when people disagree' with me, I'm simply pointing out the truth of the matter at hand. No matter how 'ugly' anyone else finds it... and I wouldn't need to do that so much, if players took responsibility for what's happened and stop blaming jagex for something the players have done (or in this case, failed to do).'

You talk about your free will to post, yet then say other people should stop posting their opinions (blaming jagex you say). I find that pretty hypocritical to be honest, and a little childish. They have the same right as you or I to post their opinions, as you have the right to reply – I only offered advice.

20-May-2013 14:59:15

Uncaged

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9 year veteran here, just cancelled my main and pure's membership. I wanted the authentic original OSR experience but jagex has proven that they cannot handle that.

They don't care about the players, the only reason this plan is getting implemented is to encourage everyone to get lengthy memberships. There is almost 20 weeks worth of rares to be dropped, so that is at least 5 months of membership, not including the seasonal drops. If you don't see that, you really have to open your eyes.

These flawed polls are obviously rigged to whatever jagex favors/will make them more money. Hopefully one day the community will see this instead of being ignorant to what's really going on here. Was fun while it lasted.

20-May-2013 15:55:01

Angel2D4

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''Yes, and it is your opinion that this ‘fact’ is the lord and saviour. I personally feel you don’t need to voice that opinion in reply to anyone with a differing view.''

So now you're going to claim what my opinion IS regarding facts (you claiming it is MY opinion that this FACT is 'the lord and saviour' ). Somehow, this doesn't surprise me. However, perhaps it would be more useful for you to post your own opinion, rather than trying to claim knowledge of the opinion of others (after all, you claim I'm constantly posting my opinion, so if it isn't clear enough for you, you could always ask me to clarify anything YOU don't understand).

''I just find it strange that you would claim to trust the community to think of the consequences of voting yes to something they want before clicking yes, yet seemingly don’t trust people to have seen/read your previous posts stating the same thing as you’re about to post.''

I didn't claim a 'trust' in the community to think first. I said I assumed they would have. I also accepted the FACT that that assumption was wrong (after YOU pointed out that the majority of them didn't take the time to think about it, that they just blindly voted).

Had I any trust in the community, I would have voted yes on that very first question. I didn't (I didn't trust the community, and I didn't vote yes on that very first question). "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

20-May-2013 16:27:01

Angel2D4

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''You talk about your free will to post, yet then say other people should stop posting their opinions (blaming jagex you say). I find that pretty hypocritical to be honest, and a little childish. They have the same right as you or I to post their opinions, as you have the right to reply – I only offered advice.''

Twist it however you wish kid (whatever gets ya thru it), but not once did I say people should stop posting their opinions. I simply pointed out that I wouldn't be posting as much as I do, if players took responsibility of this fiasco (because it IS the players who insisted on the 75% AND it is the players who didn't have enough support from the community to pass discontinued).

Your misunderstanding cannot be twisted enough to offer that I've said something I didn't. Blaming others for your own misunderstanding (instead of asking for clarification, for example) is what seems childish to me. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

20-May-2013 16:27:22

Lunatic

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Ok I only read through your reply at a flick, but clearly I hurt your feelings and most of what I saw was just an angry reply.

I'm sure there is some stuff in there that's worth a read, but frankly the majority didn't look it, so I'll leave you to carry on doing as you wish rather than ruin this thread by making you upset.

Edit: Replying to below. To save me ruining this thread by posting more that will result in your angry replies. Claim you're not angry all you want, maybe you should read what you've typed out and see how it comes across. I'm not going to argue with someone going round saying "kid" and trying to make things malicious when they're not, I certainly have better things to be doing. I'll let you calm down and cool off. Maybe you'll see the sense in my original advice later, maybe not.

20-May-2013 16:50:20 - Last edited on 20-May-2013 17:19:58 by Lunatic

Angel2D4

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Ok I only read through your reply at a flick, but clearly I hurt your feelings and most of what I saw was just an angry reply.

I'm sure there is some stuff in there that's worth a read, but frankly the majority didn't look it, so I'll leave you to carry on doing as you wish rather than ruin this thread by making you upset.

lol lunatic, I have yet to end up 'upset' over the discussion surrounding these items... and you haven't 'hurt my feelings' at all (I don't know you well enough for your opinion of me to matter, to me).

You claim now, that I'm upset or angry... because I called you out for falsely claiming I said something when I didn't?

Meh, as I said.. I don't know you well enough for your opinion of me to matter to me.

Since you offered me some unsolicited 'advice', I feel compelled to do the same for you.

Next time, if you don't want to read a post, don't blindly post that someone said something when they didn't (and if you haven't read what they did say, stands to reason you don't know what they did say). "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

20-May-2013 17:11:02

Weatherwax

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Oh no! Tradeable holiday items won't be discontinued!! they will be worthless and we won't be able to walk around in a virtual world trying to get some attention from people by showing off our virtual wealth with a virtual paper hat.

What ever shall we do!

20-May-2013 17:29:24

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Kalana

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I got tripped up on this part at first when he said that once the rare is collected at the one spawn it goes on to the next, I think what they mean by that is everyone has the chance to get the rare at Musa Point, then once your character gets the item it will spawn in a different area for you. I don't think in the world it will switch everyone will have the chance to get it at Musa Point, then they'd have to go somewhere else to grab it if they wanted another one.

But say later on we lose the rare later on after this event somehow, could we get them back from Diango?

20-May-2013 17:49:53

Lunatic

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I got tripped up on this part at first when he said that once the rare is collected at the one spawn it goes on to the next, I think what they mean by that is everyone has the chance to get the rare at Musa Point, then once your character gets the item it will spawn in a different area for you. I don't think in the world it will switch everyone will have the chance to get it at Musa Point, then they'd have to go somewhere else to grab it if they wanted another one.

But say later on we lose the rare later on after this event somehow, could we get them back from Diango?

I think you're incorrect. Although it is another one of those things that hasn't actually been clarified.

I think there's going to be 1 item per world, once anyone collects that, then it moves. Otherwise everyone will end up with a crazy amount and they did state they wanted to find a method that didn't make them too common.

20-May-2013 18:06:20

Angel2D4

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''Edit: Replying to below. To save me ruining this thread by posting more that will result in your angry replies. Claim you're not angry all you want, maybe you should read what you've typed out and see how it comes across. I'm not going to argue with someone going round saying "kid" and trying to make things malicious when they're not, I certainly have better things to be doing. I'll let you calm down and cool off. Maybe you'll see the sense in my original advice later, maybe not.''

I'm not editing my post (only to be falsely accused of typing something I haven't) in order to respond.

You can think I'm angry all you want, rofl. You can also interpret what others write, in any way you choose.

I've a very good friend who is 74 years old, and I call him 'kid' all the time. If you take offense at the use of the word 'kid' perhaps it's because you are of a younger generation than others are. It has been my experience that most people aren't offended by the word 'kid' and when I use it it is not with intent to offend anyone. Perhaps it simply reflects my age (I find that other grandmothers tend to use it quite often)?

I don't need to 'calm down' or 'cool off' because I'm not all 'hot and bothered' by anything in this discussion, or about this issue.

Perhaps it's you who needs that cooldown time, in which case I'd agree you should take all the time you need.

Really, nobody should be taking this discussion for more than it is... a discussion on holiday items that will soon come into the game for everyone to enjoy. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

20-May-2013 18:08:01

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