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Lubishka
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99% of people who play 07 are clanies who just want to fight in the wildy, they are not interested in skilling. The majority of these people already spent years of their lives training up one account and now have work and relationship commitments not allowing them time to grind out more levels. In desperation a lot of people turned to botting and in the process very old established accounts were banned. Most of these people quit and it's understandable why. NMZ has given an out to level up, legit, and it's absolutely not in Jagex's interest to nerf it now as a lot of players who quit have been drawn back to the game. Also it's unfair that some people have reaped the benefit of NMZ and others won't have the luxury of it.

06-Feb-2014 02:50:16

LaughTale XD
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I see everyone saying that nightmare zone shouldn't be nerfed because they say people don't want to grind exp, they'd rather it be fast and afkable. Of course everyone wants that, but that's thinking selfishly rather than what makes sense and is best for the game.

The Nightmare Zone needs to be nerfed because it makes combat training way too easy for soo many reasons. This method is by far the fastest combat exp in the game by around 20-30k more exp/hr, it's afkable(Even more so than wcing, fishing, etc.), profitable, and the fact that there really is no risk of dying at all. Also training combat should not be an option within minigames but should be trained in Runescape actually fighting monsters and having some sort of risk.

The last thing Oldschool Runescape needs is to get easier, but instead to maintain its challenge to preserve a higher sense of achievement. The current nightmare zone training method is just absurd and needs to be completely nerfed so that it at least isn't that worth training in. This is what's best for the games sake rather than what people want for themselves!

06-Feb-2014 07:23:31

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Alright Mod Matt K, Please Listen up. The XP rates that you have for both magic and melee, are pretty wrong.

Magic you have listed as

Magic
Nightmare Zone 160k XP per hour
Nightmare Zone (AFK) 160k XP per hour
Burtsting Monkeys 150k XP per hour

That 160k xp per hr is nearly impossible to hit even with magic boosting. You'd have to be 97-99 magic to hit those rates and you would not be able to afk that at all in anyway. As sometimes you dont hit the monster if you arent paying attention every single cast.

Its more so 130k-140k I can get average in nightmarezone.
FOr Bursting Monkeys you have the xp rates for barraging. Ice bursting is only 120k xp per hr and that could be over pricing it. THE COST OF BURSTING MONKEYS IS NOT 150k. People who are posting here do not even test these rates at all therefore have no clue what they are talking about. CHaos runes- 100 gp each. Need 4. Death- 223 each need 2. Waters 10 each need 4. THat is 876 gp per cast LOST. you can do about 1.1k casts per hr. That is 963k cash lost per hr. NOT INCLUDING PRAYER POTS,

With Barrage its over 1.8m cash lost with 150k-160k xp per hr.

Melee
Nightmare Zone 105k XP per hour
You have to be 90+ stats to even get this rate. I cannot get it on my account even with piety. the max i can get is 67k xp per hr.
Nightmare Zone (AFK) 100k XP per hour

This isnt even close. With dharocks if u use it, you have to rock cake and what not. and if you're not 85+ attack its nto even worth to use since its innaccurate


Melee Bandits (AFK) 70k XP per hour

This is more so 50-60k xp per hr.


Please read this and really look at what you have wrote. This is based on tests and as a player since 02, I think I have a huge understanding of what I'm talking about. Thanks

06-Feb-2014 15:51:09

Argov
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I see everyone saying that nightmare zone shouldn't be nerfed because they say people don't want to grind exp, they'd rather it be fast and afkable. Of course everyone wants that, but that's thinking selfishly rather than what makes sense and is best for the game.

The Nightmare Zone needs to be nerfed because it makes combat training way too easy for soo many reasons. This method is by far the fastest combat exp in the game by around 20-30k more exp/hr, it's afkable(Even more so than wcing, fishing, etc.), profitable, and the fact that there really is no risk of dying at all. Also training combat should not be an option within minigames but should be trained in Runescape actually fighting monsters and having some sort of risk.

The last thing Oldschool Runescape needs is to get easier, but instead to maintain its challenge to preserve a higher sense of achievement. The current nightmare zone training method is just absurd and needs to be completely nerfed so that it at least isn't that worth training in. This is what's best for the games sake rather than what people want for themselves!

Are you dumb or just plain arrogant?

Jagex will put up for this in the poll and it will not be nerfed its what the majority wants because of nightmare zone more players are playing osrs and that's what it needs especially now legacy mode coming out for RS3 so players like you can be a downfall of a good going game because why the hell would you want fewer exp like really no one cares about your achievements, there's a lot more to come than just grinding. A lot of players love to pvm, pvp and etc.. and still takes time and effort just a bit easier and a chance to play and do what you like faster. Not Every player wanna trian through slayer or those annoying monsters like spiders or bandits all the time like seriously you calling this seflish you the moron who is selfish my friend because you didnt have a chance to do nmz??

06-Feb-2014 17:42:28

Argov
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The players of this arrogant rs community only want to nerf nmz because some did it the old fashion way and didn't find out about how good nmz is and just want everyone to go through the same thing as they did. Every player who wants to nerf nmz are just selfish arrogant idiotic kids who thinks they know whats best for the game


Do us favor jump off a cliff because really nmz doesn't affect you whatsoever

06-Feb-2014 17:44:54

Goedgemutst
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The players of this arrogant rs community only want to nerf nmz because some did it the old fashion way and didn't find out about how good nmz is and just want everyone to go through the same thing as they did. Every player who wants to nerf nmz are just selfish arrogant idiotic kids who thinks they know whats best for the game


Do us favor jump off a cliff because really nmz doesn't affect you whatsoever

Sense of achievement is a great good to many Oldschool Runescape players. Once achievements become easier to achieve, they are devalued. That's why Jagex went so carefully about the exp rates for the new agility courses, for example.
I even quit because of the devaluation of skilling in 2011. The lack of challenge and the giant exp rates making 99's easy drove many players away.
I think it's very ignorant of you to think that it doesn't affect those against NMZ in any way.

06-Feb-2014 18:16:52

Argov
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Challenge???/ Im not even talking about skilling???? leave skilling aside for those who want a challenge but for people like to pvp and pvm prefer the fast way because really grinding isnt our thing nmz doesn't affect you whatsoever like its not what you want you it's what the majority wants and its to be able to train combat stats little faster than normal to do other fun stuff majority dont wanna grind..... so you are really dumb for saying im ignornant because again you put yourself as if it doesn't go to your needs of how you want to play the game other than what the majority really wants


like it or not its gonna be nerfed majority will say no to nerf because it really is stupid for making a big issue about it because not really affecting you...

06-Feb-2014 19:21:46

Goedgemutst
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Challenge???/ Im not even talking about skilling???? leave skilling aside for those who want a challenge but for people like to pvp and pvm prefer the fast way because really grinding isnt our thing nmz doesn't affect you whatsoever like its not what you want you it's what the majority wants and its to be able to train combat stats little faster than normal to do other fun stuff majority dont wanna grind..... so you are really dumb for saying im ignornant because again you put yourself as if it doesn't go to your needs of how you want to play the game other than what the majority really wants


like it or not its gonna be nerfed majority will say no to nerf because it really is stupid for making a big issue about it because not really affecting you...

1. Since when are att/str/def/range/mage/hp not skills...? All skills are part of skilling.
2. The poll asks for my own opinion, not the majority's opinion.

Also write a little better, your arguments already make no sense and on top of that so does your punctuation/grammar.

06-Feb-2014 19:30:31

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