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Adamvite

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Is this poll coming out today?

I really am hoping for GE, people complain about it but realistically. You can't suffer from GE, just making trading bulk items that much easier. Not everyone wants to go and stand around trading all day, and some people just aren't as interactive as others.

Grand exchange eliminates all of that + the chance of being scammed.

31-Dec-2014 20:24:50

Adamvite

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Things change, anyways. Could you tell me why you are so opposed to the GE?

For me not having the GE makes the game unpleasant. Dealing with people and finding who to buy and sell stuff from. Having to meet people and trade and wait for stuff that doesn't make a difference if I waited or didn't wait, just prolonged me from getting to a certain point in the game or gaining something I wanted just couldn't find the right person.

Why is it hated?

31-Dec-2014 20:48:38

Fire Roc2
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The G.E./automatic trading would be a terrible update for Old School Runescape.

This game is called Old School RS it should not try to copy RS3. Please do not make the same mistake that was made back in 2007. The GE turned RS into a game focused on merchanting and gaining money. It would take the social aspect out of trading and allow players to gain a lot of money incredibly fast. The rate at which people would be able to gain money off of trading would greatly increase and be unbalanced compared to all other methods of gaining money. Automatic trading is not meant for every game and this is one of them.

Right now the Trading Post is a good addition, it's a compromise. I'd personally prefer to have a bare bones trading system with no assistance from the developers in which I must adventure out in the world to find my required items for monster slaying or questing. However, I understand that not everyone shares my opinion and this Trading Post truly is the best of both worlds. Please do not give into to one side and instead keep this compromise. It's not a perfect solution for solely my side or the other side of the argument but its the best solution to satisfy both. Keep the Trading Post the way it is, it's a compromise that keeps some level of human interaction which is kind of the point of an MMO.

31-Dec-2014 23:55:59 - Last edited on 31-Dec-2014 23:57:22 by Fire Roc2

Adamvite

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Fire Roc2 said :
The G.E./automatic trading would be a terrible update for Old School Runescape.

This game is called Old School RS it should not try to copy RS3. Please do not make the same mistake that was made back in 2007. The GE turned RS into a game focused on merchanting and gaining money. It would take the social aspect out of trading and allow players to gain a lot of money incredibly fast. The rate at which people would be able to gain money off of trading would greatly increase and be unbalanced compared to all other methods of gaining money. Automatic trading is not meant for every game and this is one of them.

Right now the Trading Post is a good addition, it's a compromise. I'd personally prefer to have a bare bones trading system with no assistance from the developers in which I must adventure out in the world to find my required items for monster slaying or questing. However, I understand that not everyone shares my opinion and this Trading Post truly is the best of both worlds. Please do not give into to one side and instead keep this compromise. It's not a perfect solution for solely my side or the other side of the argument but its the best solution to satisfy both. Keep the Trading Post the way it is, it's a compromise that keeps some level of human interaction which is kind of the point of an MMO.

Most MMO's that have trade have a market of some sort that doesn't require you to be online and see the person. Final Fantasy 14, a market, those games have been going long and strong for quite some time. But thats just one, so you saying the Grand Exchange will eliminate some type of game play you refer to is misconception.

The grand exchange helps many players and not everyone has the time to stand around looking for someone to trade with. When people play a game they want to get their goal done and do things in the game. The focus of this game is not to trade people. A grand exchange would only help.

01-Jan-2015 02:16:49

Fire Roc2
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Adamvite said :


Most MMO's that have trade have a market of some sort that doesn't require you to be online and see the person. Final Fantasy 14, a market, those games have been going long and strong for quite some time. But thats just one, so you saying the Grand Exchange will eliminate some type of game play you refer to is misconception.

The grand exchange helps many players and not everyone has the time to stand around looking for someone to trade with. When people play a game they want to get their goal done and do things in the game. The focus of this

Yes, many MMO's do have a market system. However, many other MMO's do not have a market system. Other MMO's are not our concern here. Your argument that the GE will not eliminate the social aspect of trading is completely without proof. Mentioning that FF14 has a market system is not proof of anything, it's just a statement. You said my claim that the GE will reduce player to player action is a misconception. How is that so? Do you have to organize with other players when attempting to buy something from the GE? Do you even have to talk to another player? No, in fact the only action one must do to obtain an item from the GE is to talk to the NPC and sort through the menus. There is no contact with other players. Do keep in mind that we are talking about a massively multiplayer game, so a move to eliminate player to player interaction was and would be again a bad thing. Having to interact with other people in a multiplayer game is gameplay. It's part of the social aspect of gameplay. I have made many friends through trades that I likely would never have met if the GE was around. I believe you are the one with the misconception because introducing the GE would eliminate a large chunk of the social aspect of trading which, my friend, is gameplay.

01-Jan-2015 04:07:58

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Adamvite said :

The grand exchange helps many players and not everyone has the time to stand around looking for someone to trade with. When people play a game they want to get their goal done and do things in the game. The focus of this

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I'm sure the GE satisfies what many people want, however, not everyone wants the same thing. With the Trading Post players don't need to go looking around for someone to trade with, the sellers name is on a list if they have the item and want to sell it. There is no hunting for a seller or questing on the forums to find someone who is willing to sell. The Trading Post at it's current state is the best solution for everyone. It gives some people what they want while preserving interactions between players.

Claiming that some people do not have time to use the Trading Post is a little ridiculous. Let's think about this conceptually! Person A can only play OSRS for 20 minutes per day while Person B can play for 10 hours per day. Person A will always be able to do what Person B has done within OSRS just not at the same time. The rate may differ but the potential does not. Now let's move away from that example and really just ask ourselves, is the 5 minutes it takes to organize a trade with another player really such a big deal? Yeah some items may take longer depending on whether the seller is online but if they aren't you can just do something else, this game has a lot to offer.

You claimed that everyone plays the game to do things in the game which is kind of a redundant statement. I think you are trying to imply that people do not play the game to interact with others while trading. I'm just going to point out that you have no idea why everyone plays OSRS nor can you say what the focus of the game is. You are not the developer.

01-Jan-2015 04:57:42

Fire Roc2
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Adamvite said :
Is this poll coming out today?

I really am hoping for GE, people complain about it but realistically. You can't suffer from GE, just making trading bulk items that much easier. Not everyone wants to go and stand around trading all day, and some people just aren't as interactive as others.

Grand exchange eliminates all of that + the chance of being scammed.

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Finally, I would like to point out that the past has shown that the GE will not eliminate the chance of being scammed. Merchant guilds scammed many people through price manipulation with the GE.

Also using the trading post does not take all day, be realistic. You may not like it but others do. It's a compromise that works. It makes trading easier while maintaining some aspect of the old ways which for others including me was fun.

01-Jan-2015 05:02:04 - Last edited on 01-Jan-2015 05:05:54 by Fire Roc2

whereyagarn

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Bring back *.E
I am coming back to Runescape after years of not playing and its frustrating having to look around for items.
I just want to be able to get right into it and buy the things I need, sell the things I want with simplicity.

01-Jan-2015 07:58:35

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